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#921 Posted : 3/26/2015 8:23:12 AM

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DreaMTripper wrote:
Possibly the last photo in the post before this one is an acacia and the first 3 photos of the last post.. Still closer up of vein structure needed. You should check out worldwide wattle for how the flowers develop and for getting an idea of the acacia 'look'.



Okay that's good because thats exactly what I thought as well. Thanks for the advice, the one in the photo was actually quite small probably 2-2.5m tall with a small trunk as you could see.

I'm thinking of sourcing the AC and MH seeds online and planting them in my backyard for self sustainability. Would this be a good option?
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#922 Posted : 3/26/2015 11:14:40 AM

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Acacia acuminata is probably the best one to grow in Australian climates. Unless you are in the tropics in which case confusa, simplex or MH would be ok. There are a few others too such as floribunda and maidenii , floribunda is fast growing. Check out the 'Top 8 Acacia to grow world wide
 
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#923 Posted : 3/27/2015 12:44:05 AM

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I'm in the nsw region so I don't know if thats as tropical as places like QLD. The only reason that's worth cultivating MH, AC is for their rich alkaloid content. I've read Acuminata is decent but Maidenii and floribunda seem to be reported to have a much less alk. profile and is even variable.

just checked out the thread and i'm guessing I might go with acuminata and the maidenii x obtusfolia. They're both very nice looking trees too.
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#924 Posted : 4/3/2015 12:56:09 AM

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Went for a few more walks around this week and my dog happened to find a few trees that he liked peeing on so swim decided to take some photos Laughing



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#925 Posted : 4/3/2015 1:10:57 AM

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Can i go ahead and assume that north American does not support a climate to properly grow similar plants capable of producing anything. That a green house would be necessary. It'd be nice if I was wrong
 
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#926 Posted : 4/3/2015 2:45:21 PM

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Heres a few more acacia potentials
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#927 Posted : 4/5/2015 11:48:13 AM
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#928 Posted : 4/5/2015 11:55:59 AM
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#929 Posted : 4/5/2015 12:09:42 PM
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#930 Posted : 4/5/2015 12:11:27 PM
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Hello everyone ive been off the grid for a while. Just want to say i love you all and the beautiful work u all do! My bird finally got successful strain to work and then i took a long break.. Its pretty insane really ( im more than happy to move next section to extract forum just in bit of rush) i waa so discouraged after my final extraction that bird threw all my jars away. Before doing this bird ran something quickly through my jars cant even remember now (wouldve been metho/ipa/shellite) and poured this quickly into jar before too much oil dissolved. As well bird left one small jar of concentrated free base water solution that had been double a/b through xylene and i had no more solvent so left in cupboard. Bout 3 months later i recieved bottle cap (1st pic) and another calling which i hadnt heard in some time. Checked jars so crazy... Combined wash had turned into orange oil which refuses to x.. Hydrous freebase had evapoed into big white chunky crystals and bunch lil small ones. I couldnt even figure out where these cane from for longest time then racked my brain and remembered this guy (Acacia pic 2) popping out and saying hello. Anyway oil had most magnificent like old school stuff i had back in the day.. (Not from land of wattle originally) I want to mention as well bird used only twigs and phyllodes to obtain this ultra potent treasure. and after doin quick re-x/wash of white chunks ended up with some eeally nice clusters of x-tals i thought only existed in fairytales and pics on nexus. Wink bioessay oil put me to sleep standing up very deep feeling cev beautiful taste, xtals gave me full frequency awareness as well as very disembodied feeling ( had very little in end)
Since ive been sdoing a lot, and i mean a lot, of work on id-ing and pheeeeew the more i learn the less i know. Just when i thought i had my ids down i read the entire collaborative and id forums and realised there are several sub species and hybrids to consider. How deep does this rabbit hole really go? I think maybe we should start including bark and tree structure in identifying as in my opinion phyllode, flowers, and seed pods. Also thinking im gonna go back to using instinct and intuition as my 6th sense as everything in my area seems so variable. Also want to mention looking back over all the work birds done.. Almost positively birds done extracts on tryptamine containing plant with out obtaining viable product. I can prove this with freak accident of pic#2 which bird had done several pulls of shelly no success. DONT WASTE UR TIME WITH DIGGERS ! Also seems fat and oil content much higher than depicted so de-fat de-fat de-fat and if u getting oil keep pulling i think these plant substances are just natures little obstacles. Ive got lots mpre to mention will leave that for extraction forum
Anyway heres some pics help with ids be awesome. Thanks brothers and sisters
Pic#2 +3 positive alk result.. Will follow up in near future with proper xtract and better pics. Curious on thoughts of species though? Im almost 100% positive this is obtus- of some sort.. Only other thing i can think of is longissoma or something. Havent seen flowering but had right seed pods
Pic#4 a few really big specimens which looking back i think were same as previous tree
Pic#5 +6 what i would consider visual evidence of hybridization of multiple species in one area
Pic#7+8+9 im most curious about speculation of id there is a huge story of irony involved in this tree which will follow depending on the id results u guys suggest. p.S dont think melanoxylon as i have seen flowering pale yellow rods.. Tall 15m tree with single stem fissured bark couldnt find seed pods and phyllodes so variable i have a hard time trying generalize between 2-5 main vains with sparsely to generously anastomosing secondary veins sickled to- elliptical pointed tips to obtuse
If there is any potential in last specimen illl follow up with some better pics and an even better story
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#931 Posted : 4/6/2015 11:12:50 PM
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Hello guys , the only kind of acacia i can find is acacia senegal , and i dont really know if its a good idea to extract from it , i cant really find out if its worth extracting , what do you think ?
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#932 Posted : 4/12/2015 2:13:18 AM

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Hello,
I found this near my place in Victoria, Australia.
Anybody can help with an i.d
searched many google images but couldn't find it Sad

I can take more pics if that helps Smile

 
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#933 Posted : 4/12/2015 3:08:46 AM

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Looks like Acacia Paradoxa.
Inconsistency is in my nature.
The simple PHYLLODE tek

I'm just waiting for these bloody plants to grow
 
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#934 Posted : 4/12/2015 8:18:59 PM

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I posted pics of these last year, but I had missed them blooming. I almost missed it again. I think it's sweet acacia but it could be perhaps nilotica or some other acacia. Anyone know?

They're growing close to a botanical garden, could be escapees.
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Last pic could let me think you're living in australia with the upside down people !
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#937 Posted : 4/13/2015 12:29:16 PM

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Here's that last pic again
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#938 Posted : 4/30/2015 9:59:40 AM
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Hello! So I have been lurking for a few weeks now, slowly working my way through this thread and other extraction tek threads etc, and I figure it is finally time to lock down my IDs. I've been exploring an area in Southern Sydney which has many hundreds of Acacias throughout it, most of which I suspect are Maidenii (Maidenii is apparently common in Heathcote National Park).

Anyway, I've managed to work my way through numerous trees, and get used to the natural variability to figure out that there seem to be 3 distinct varieties which I would love to lock down the IDs of.

To start off with, here is a photo of all 3 tree branches side by side (these are not fresh, unfortunately):



With that comparison, here are a couple of trees which I think might be Maidenii...or something similar.... The thing which throws me is the two main veins. None of the identification drawings show any of the typical wattles as having two veins, as far as I have been able to tell.

Up close:



After looking at many trees which have (generally) the same phyllodes, and similar bark, this tree was the first one I found with old seed pods on it:


and this tree was just near by the first:


They are still the only two trees I have seen with old seed pods, but I suspect that this is because most other trees lost them long ago. We are clearly just coming into new flower season right now, as you can see in most of the photos the spikes are still young, green, and I have been watching them grow over the last few weeks (the sample in the photos with the ruler is from early-mid April, while the other live trees (below) were late April, for example). So here is one of the many live trees I have found:

Full tree


Branch up close:


and trunk:


And here is a different one:




I'll make a second post with the photos from the other two varieties I am looking at.

 
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#939 Posted : 4/30/2015 10:17:27 AM
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So moving on to the second species, the one with the buds instead of spikes, here is the whole tree:



a branch up close:



Seed pod:


Trunk, bark and seed pod:
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Phyllode size




These trees are much less common.

I have no idea why some of the photos are determined to come out sideways....


And now finally, the tree I think of as Fluffy, because the spikes are much fluffier, and almost as long as the phyllodes, so the whole thing looks kinda fluffy. Unfortunately the photos aren't as good:

Whole tree:


Trunk+bark:


Measurements:




Bushiness:



(Actually two different trees here. Again this tree is much less common than the potential Maidenii)
 
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ForgotMyPen, your first tree is not an acacia but I think a bottlebrush of some sort... second one looks like acacia floribunda
 
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