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Posts: 303 Joined: 07-Aug-2013 Last visit: 10-Jul-2015 Location: NonLocal
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Giichil wrote:Oh no, there's a decent sized tank for it with everything she needs. SWIM tried to milk her gently through every single means read about without harming her. There's just no motivation to harm her even if that's supposed to be necessary. The problem is that she's pre-milked by the shipper, probably out of some moral delusion against her self-defense compound. She's now treated well, and fed frequently. Considering a release into the field close by once certain nearby plants are investigated. One is unsure about release yet, but it will happen. She is not useless, serves as a sort of companion for the moment. She hates to be held, but stays fairly calm and relaxed when stroked either under the chin or over her head. Holdings will be minimized now. All creatures (besides insects she eats) are loved. They will not be disposed of (like death) by SWIM just because one feature is no longer obtainable ![Pleased](/forum/images/emoticons/happy.png) Release back into nature, possibly near the river seems the best option for her freedom. Thanks for the info. I hope you are in an area where the toad can be released and live decently...although it will probably be lonely..lol, and if it was bread(sp?) in captivity, it might die quickly in nature, but probably not. In my opinion, a decent sized tank is not nearly enough. Would you like to live in a decent sized tank your whole life? As i'm sure you can tell, i'm not a fan of taking free animals, reptiles, insects out of their natural habitats and forcing them to live in prison their whole lives (for whatever reason, and however well one might THINK they are treating the creature, a prison is what it is). Generally it's different with animals like dogs and cats, because they are aware enough that a mutual bond can be made, and then animal decides that it wants to stay, and the human is willing to let it.
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Posts: 250 Joined: 07-Mar-2015 Last visit: 18-Sep-2015 Location: Earth
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Giichil wrote:Oh no, there's a decent sized tank for it with everything she needs. SWIM tried to milk her gently through every single means read about without harming her. There's just no motivation to harm her even if that's supposed to be necessary. The problem is that she's pre-milked by the shipper, probably out of some moral delusion against her self-defense compound. She's now treated well, and fed frequently. Considering a release into the field close by once certain nearby plants are investigated. One is unsure about release yet, but it will happen. She is not useless, serves as a sort of companion for the moment. She hates to be held, but stays fairly calm and relaxed when stroked either under the chin or over her head. Holdings will be minimized now. All creatures (besides insects she eats) are loved. They will not be disposed of (like death) by SWIM just because one feature is no longer obtainable ![Pleased](/forum/images/emoticons/happy.png) Release back into nature, possibly near the river seems the best option for her freedom. plus; i think you can get 5 meo dmt from plant source as well ![Smile](/forum/images/emoticons/smile.png) but that's really amazing that you're taking care of them. there's many people who abuse these animals unfortunately but i'm very very pleased that you are respecting the toad my friend ![Smile](/forum/images/emoticons/smile.png) thank you <3
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Releasing a captive bred toad into the wild is moar or less a death sentence. You brought this creature into your life, now you are responsible for her care. She is a magical being, please treat her well.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=40438) DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 7 Joined: 04-Apr-2015 Last visit: 24-May-2015
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If NN DMT can be obtained it is preferred over 5meo. Simply because of the effects that have been read about it. More visual, less terrifying loss of ego. This area is humid but is not her natural habitat.
One's life is lived like an animal in a large tank these days.
It's a death sentence? Should she be kept rather than released?
SWIMs heart aches from remembering Chris Kilham's talk on ayahuasca but being so far away from trying DMT. One yearns to contact the dead, even if it is an illusion. The pain is incomprehensible. It does not leave and there's only constant sorrow. Research yields a painless but permanent way out. There is an eagerness to speak with them and questions of why one's life continues without this person only increase.
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dreamer042 wrote:Releasing a captive bred toad into the wild is moar or less a death sentence. You brought this creature into your life, now you are responsible for her care. She is a magical being, please treat her well. ^This If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
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Posts: 1999 Joined: 13-Jun-2011 Last visit: 24-Jun-2018
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You are more likely to find closure or a way of working past these feelings than communication from the beyond. I would be very wary of attaching such projections to your experiences if I were you. joedirt wrote:dreamer042 wrote:Releasing a captive bred toad into the wild is moar or less a death sentence. You brought this creature into your life, now you are responsible for her care. She is a magical being, please treat her well. ^This ^That. Plus if it's not native to the area, there is also the risk of contributing to an invasive population. Take good care of it. Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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Posts: 1808 Joined: 29-Jan-2010 Last visit: 30-Dec-2023 Location: in the universe
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Giichil wrote: One yearns to contact the dead only lucid dream states and astral projection,OBE's can do this with some realiablity try open mind meditation for easy astral projection , http://www.theemotionmac...com/open-mind-meditation , the point is to meditate throught the day and not try to astral project , for it will happen autamatically while sleeping , this meditation method does it automatically without any need to try yet it is selfish to make contact as it prevents souls from moving on and finding joy , also animals are spiritual guides , this toad is going to offer protection and love , make sure to do the same illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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