So there I am, lying on the floor in the back of the tent where a certain DMT-oriented DJ was warping my mind. I'm in the back of this tent along with about a dozen of what I would consider an elite class of fucked up people at this huge event. I'm so obviously twisted out of my mind, lying there under a giant painting of a green octopus, staring at the projectors, and people have the fucking nerve to walk by whispering "deem... deem..." as they walk by.

First of all, I BROUGHT my own DMT thank you very much. Second, their shit looked dirty as hell. And third, do I LOOK like I need ANY more psychedelics? I didn't come to the back of this particular stage tent to score, and I don't think anyone else did either. I came there to get spaced and I came prepared.

If you're trying to sling deem in the back of a Sh****le concert, I'm sorry, but you kinda missed the boat. And if you're actually buying deem there, you're a loser and could have grabbed some over the past three days.

I'm already smoking out of a glass dick, please don't make me feel any more like a fucking dope fiend by turning an otherwise awesome DMT ritual into something sleazy.

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BTW the concert was FUCKING AMAZING!

It's weird but there are people out there that do stuff just because it does something and there are people out there willing to take advantage.
Ever since I found out how to clean crystals properly, I laugh pretty damn hard every time I see some dirty street drugs that the buyers/sellers seem to think is the best cleanest thing they have ever seen. This one dealer once told me that pure MDMA is supposed to be the same colour as Coca-cola... nuff said.

But with that said selling DMT at a show is clearly rediculous, no matter how clean it is... I just can't believe the prices people shift the stuff for too!

I have not ever seen white crystals for sale, only dirty yellow...I have been offered them..but the only yellow crystals I would smoke would be my own so I could be damn sure of what that "yellow" actually is!

I made the mistake of telling someoone I had just met once how much it would actually cost to pull about a gram from mimosa...because he had some already that he had bought..I felt my heart sink as his beady little eyes shot wide open and he began to rave about how much more he could than sell that spice for ..it was even worse when I found out that the stuff he had taken to this festival with him, was all to sell and he had only tried it twice..tiny ammounts. If I had a pile of spice like that i'd be tripping balls for quite some time!..but in most cases these dealers just seem to be weekend-acid heads(or worse) looking to make $$

..funny when I ask these dealers what solvents were used...alwasy those retarted, confused looks..

yeah, everybody was trying to make a quick buck off of DMT last week! I seriously personally saw a ball of disgusting waxy crystals the size of my fist! All weekend people were still trying to get rid of the stuff. Everybody was trying to sell it and nobody seemed to be buying. I guess they didn't get the word that everybody has access to DMT now thanks to the internet. LOL! You can tell that a million people had the same idea that they could make lots of easy money on DMT and it backfired. Either way, expect all this DMT to trickle down from that scene and into the homes of your friends. The kids at the festy seemed to be way over the hype about DMT.

Several people I talked to (a fellow nexian even) expressed disappointment in the way that the Spirit Molecule was being peddled as a cheap thrill, often without any explanation or disclaimer for those trying it for the first time.

I won't say exactly what concert it was, but I'll tell you that it was this last saturday (June, 6th). All I'll say is that LSD/MDMA/DMT is a GREAT combination and can't wait to try it again at a home setting. I'm sure if you were there you'd probably remember the green octopus on the wall next to what I've been calling "Deem Alley" or "Under the Cephalopod". The projector visualizations were fucking WARPED! So fucking sick...

Here in Italy no one is selling DMT... and also, I don't know of anybody who extracts it (SWIM is a form of pioneer for the Italian level, lol).

But after have tried DMT I can't see how can someone have the heart to sell it...
such a blessing, powerful, enlightning stuff should be given for free to the whole world

That's really sad.

I'm glad it backfired on them though. I don't care how clean someone’s xtals are, there is never a reason to buy dmt, only mimosa. To peddle it like crack is damn near sacrilege in my book. Hope the elves save a special place for people like that (and I never go there!).


I'm glad you had a good time though, I'm quite jealous!

SWIM was introduced to DMT by a friend of a friend at a camp in the middle of no where.He had heard Rogan talk about it on the BTLS show, but never thought that he would have the chance to try it out.It was 3 weeks later when he ordered mimosa..He would never sell it, and has never seen it for sale in his parts.

Why is it ok to sell/buy Mushies/Acid/MDMA but not DMT. Could I get an explanation of what the difference is.

smoke 70mg dmt freebase and you will see

I have plenty of times. Thats not a very good explanation. Im not trying to start an argument. I would like to know why most people on these forums feel that way when those substances have the possibility to give the same insights and take you to the same places.

Yeah man. DMT is GOD, that's why! SWIM has tried all those mentioned, but only DMT filled him with divinity. Salvia did do it once, but only once, and for a brief time. Maybe DMT doesn't work for you like for others? Some people say it doesn't even affect them at all. But for many, it's an instant ticket to god and an awe that brings you to your knees. Seriously, when SWIM thinks of DMT, sometimes he wants to drop to his knees from the very thought of the molecule!

As for people trying out DMT just to get messed up... I dunno, I don't think I'm against that. Because I wonder if even though they had no intentions as such, the molecule may whack some of them up the ass so much that they turn their lives around for the better. Could this happen? Like how with a near-death experience, no-one goes into that wanting to change themselves... but often they do change for the better because of it.

SWIM remembers this guy giving away k at a party. He was the stereotypical drugfucked hippy- long hair, long clothes, eccentric, paranoid etc- but when he asked him if he did DMT, he replied "No way man, that's the one drug I'll never do". Hah! And with that little old SWIM in his normal clothes and his normal mannerisms (well, normal compared to the this guy!) had outhippied him. Because for him entheos were just about getting messed up, and because of that, he was scared of 'the lifechanger'. A lot of people are. Well, that was my reading of it anyway

large doses of mushrooms have never been as powerful or insanely impossible and full of torrents of information as a nice large dose of DMT.

it would be great if all drugs were just given to people...but you cant go out and just make lsd...it has to come from a very experienced chemist who most likely isnt doing it to just spread the love..so if you want some acid you have to buy it or have a friend give you some...SWIM is personally against selling drugs..it brings way way way too much attention to you..also these drugs are extremely powerful and shouldnt be in inexperienced hands without support..but as soon as you sell them you cant control that anymore..

DMT should be given to people from experienced people..you can take a hit of acid or mdma and be fine by yourself..but DMT is just insane and if you had no idea what to expect it could cause a lot of problems..

the biggest reason for not selling drugs is because its stupid to..but that doesnt stop a lot of people..its just like somebody profiting from say...air

I'm not entirely against the selling of DMT. I wouldn't do it, but it's gonna happen. I bought my first few doses of DMT and that motivated me to extract it myself. But I'm just saying that these kids were way fucking late and they ruined the fucking atmosphere. I think the whole dope-calling thing is obnoxious anyways.

Yeah I hate those "Pillsskunkcoke" whisperers. What happened to the good old days when you just walked up to the happiest person in the room and they sorted you out from their magic bumbag?!

Yeah I hate those "Pillsskunkcoke" whisperers. What happened to the good old days when you just walked up to the happiest person in the room and they sorted you out from their magic bumbag?!

I also don't like the idea of selling-buying shrooms, to be onest. It's beacause, in my perception, money it's a really dirty idea I don't want to contaminate the purity of these stuff with.

For MDMA I don't really care, don't really like it, and LSD well, is different. You have to spend a lot of money to make LSD, I feel like ok for me to try to help you with the cash.

No difference, it's not ok for any of those.

I agree 100% with the consensus that spice should not be bought or sold. And while it always will be (and while my logic concerning whether or not it's "okay" compared to the purchase and sale of other substances may be fuzzy at best), I don't have to like it. It's just the way I feel.

1) Jorkest is absolutely right in that the masses cannot synthesize LSD. It just isn't accessible to the motivated self-seeker in the way that DMT is, so if LSD is to be consumed (for 99.999% of us anyway), purchase unfortunately is the only way.

2) The scope of the DMT experience is just a WHOLE LOT bigger. It runs exponentially deeper than a moderate-to-hefty dose of any of these other substances, and uneducated first-time users/casual experimenters may find themselves in WAY over their heads. Even for 5-7 minutes, this just isn't cool (in my opinion).

3) The more DMT is spread around by way of sale and purchase, the better the chances of resultant media scrutiny, demonization and prohibition of source materials. This is a completely self-serving motive perhaps, but it's a pretty realistic one.

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4) In the same way I take a dim view of many organized religions, I just don't think that divinity should ever be commodified. The DMT experience is as close to an actual state of grace as SWIM will likely ever encounter. Reducing it to commodity is an insult to the source.

If someone approached me at a music festival with their yellow oily muck, I would probably give em an earful and call them names unfit for repeating on the Nexus. But that's just me. I'm an angry dude and I like to mix it up.

I think one of the major concerns (beyond potential scorn within the hyperspace realm of course) is that if more people are buying and selling it, that invariably leads to more arrests and eventually bad publicity for DMT, which does not help the cause.

I've noticed its starting to become more and more well known in the states and most people don't really know what they're getting themselves into. Part of me likes the idea of it becoming more widespread, while another part of me worries about the possible repercussions. I've definitely seen some signs that its often being abused rather than respected.