I am new to this forum. I am an old retired boomer, whose last trip was in 1968! I think then it was mostly wasted on youthful frivolity. Now, I am looking to make better spiritual use of these Godly Spices. Of course I now have many concerns about a SWAT team breaking into my garage during some extraction, or how in hell does one old dude go about making the necessary connections required to do any of this?

If there are any wise old folks out there with any tips - do comment!

SWIMfriend and Sight_Seeker are both your age brother. i think where this sacrament is concerned age is pretty irrelevant. read up on the extraction/tek page...there are some down-right easy teks to follow. i can personally vouch for both the Noman's tek and the Marsifold's tek. i'm gonna try the non-toxic d-limonene tek sometime this week...
i imagine with the self-awareness that comes with circling the sun as many times as you have you will have a profound relationship with the spice. i can't wait to hear about your first journey!!

much love brother.

...and gratitude!!

Thank you for that nice note of encouragement Antrocles. I have read the TEKs - all of them I think. And, I have boned up on my organic chemistry (gotta love those "Dummy" books) and I think I understand them reasonably well now. I can see how it can be accomplished. I'll be on the lookout for SWIMFriend and sight-seeker! Peace to you.

Welcome! SWIM knows nothing about chemistry- he just followed Lazyman's tek and the advice on here closely, and out came spice! Anyone willing to be careful and patient can do it

PS I'm really interested about back then, I'd love to hear some stories here if you have any http://www.dmt-nexus.me/....aspx?g=posts&t=4180

Good to hear & Welcome to the Nexus!!

The new D-Limonene/FASW tek is very easy & gets a relatively large yield, but I'm still a bit more fond of pure DMT, the D-Limo teks pulls out the other alkaloids ("jungle spice") & results in a softer, waxier end product, albeit a powerful one!!
However, for me, the effects of jungle spice feel more like I'm observing the experience than like I'm involved in it.
It's a subtle difference & very hard to explain, but for me, those clear-to-white shards of pure DMT beauty are hard to beat!!

I've always had 1% or higher yields of "kitchen pure", clear/white crystals using Vovins tek.
It's an A/B tek, so it seems more complicated, but those extra steps are there to remove fats, oils & other impurities during the extraction, rather than having to recrystallize a dirtier end product to clean it up.
In my experience, the STB teks are much quicker & easier, but result in a much dirtier product & need to be recrystalized, sometime 2 or three times, in order to get a yield as pure as I've gotten straight out of the freezer the first time, from Vovi's tek.
BTW, I highly recommend freeze precipitation over evaporation to get your DMT out of the final solvent!! It is really so much easier than it sounds in print!!

As far as trying to keep a low profile while getting a hold of the necessary gear & plants, try to pay for it with cash where ever you can, a lot of these things can usually be found in smaller specialty shops in most larger city's. Although it is always much, much more expensive for some reason.
Still, most vendors are very discreet with their packaging & your personal info.

The plant(s) needed are legal, but probably watched to a certain extent.
I never order more than like 250-to-500g of Mimosa (I keep my extractions down to 150g or less, of mimosa) at any one time & I try not make order after order, after order. I'll wait a week or two at least, most times I'm ordering something & make sure that I'm getting everything I'm wanting, in one (small) order.

If you are needing the name of a good vendor or two, feel free to shoot me a PM.

Also, if you haven't yet, you may think about looking into Ayahuasca too, if your intentions with this stuff is really above the whole "fun" of it & your wanting to get down to some serious consciousness expansion & personal growth, Ayahuasca can be easier to integrate into your everyday life.
Ayahuasca is a tea, brewed from usually two plants, One that contains DMT & another that contains MAOI's, which inhibit he enzyme that metabolizes DMT so quickly, making the DMT orally active & extending the length of the experience up to 6 hours.

Chacruna, or Chaliponga leaf is usually used as the DMT plant in traditional Aya but there are others.
Chaliponga contains N,N-DMT, 5-MeO-DMT & Bufotenine, so it is usually a considerably stronger Aya than a brew using Chacruna, which contains mainly just N,N-DMT.
Ayahuasca made with Chaliponga is usually considered for experienced Aya users.

For true Ayahuasca, one must use Banisteriopsis Caapi vine as the MAOI, but one can also use Syrian Rue seeds as an MAOI, there are others too, but these are the most popular & I think, the most potent.
Caapi is quite psychedelic on it's own & is the "soul" of the brew (DMT is considered the "Light" of the brew), there is a very strong feeling of someone/something being there with you, helping & guiding you through the experience with Caapi.
S. Rue seems to lack this.

You can also buy, or make extracts of the Harmala alkaloids (Harmine, Harmaline & Tetrahydroharmine) in the MAOI plants, to make Pharmauasca. A cleaner, less disgusting tasting version of Aya.

MAOI's also potentate smoked DMT, making it last up to 2 hours & slowing it down a bit, making it easier to "use" for exploration & personal healing!


Alright, sorry for the lesson, I got bit carried away but I hope something in there helps!!

Cheers!

WS

Welcome to the nexus
you will find friendly people regaurdless of your age.
Remember Huxley took his last trip right before he died (his wife injected LSD)
You dont have to be old to be wise but it does not hurt to have experance!

Greetings Friend
M.V.

Thanks for the nice welcome! And, I am going to take you up on the good vendor or two idea. I mean, nothing like experience to avoid some problems, right? Thanks,
Peace

I agree with Warrensaged: I find vovin's approach the clearest and most logical; and it emphasizes purity, which is a major interest with me. Extractions should be straightforward enough.

What worries me most is dosing. I know my lung capacity isn't nearly what it was even 20 years ago. I worry whether it will even be POSSIBLE for me to inhale and retain the necessary number of breaths (typically 3 for a young person), within the necessary time frame (most say about 90 seconds), in order to regularly achieve what are called "breakthrough" experiences. IV is always a simple solution--essentially guaranteed breakthrough experiences everytime. But I'd prefer to avoid IV at the start, if at all possible. I'm looking into the idea of using a nebulizer.

Another thing to keep in mind is that DMT is generally considered to have the effect of raising blood pressure and pulse--perhaps considerably--during the trip. I would STRONGLY recommend trying low dosages first to gauge what your response might be. I plan to use a sports heart rate monitor for my initial tries, just to make sure my reaction is not extreme.

Please post your experiences! They'll be especially beneficial to me personally!

Ahhh. I hear you on the blood pressure. I have had hypertension for years, but I am actively taking steps to reduce it. And I would myself be conservative by nature as far as purity and dose. I have been taking medicines my entire life, and I am well indoctrinated into the microcosm of legal pharmaceutical drugs.

SWIM hopes to get going in all this pretty soon, but he is starting from ground zero, so he will have to ramp up on every aspect of doing this.

A couple years ago SWIM got a "stone massage" from a wonderful enlightened goddess, and he noticed it only took one toke to be rather well spaced up. So he figures he is very sensitive and it might not take much spice to see the gods. But hell, he is only guessing.

If blood pressure is a worry, once again I gotta say look into taking the DMT orally with an natural MAOI like Caapi or Rue.
These are not like pharmaceutical MAOI's, I'm not the one to try and explain why though.

Your not inhaling that way either.

WS

Is getting those natural MAOIs another big extraction deal? It would be nice if you could just buy them and not have another thing to make!

You can just buy them, but there are steps you can take to purify them in order to reduce possible nausea.

yes you can buy them - but perhaps after swiy extracts spice he will see what a fun hobby this is - for swim its like oh hell yeah, i get to extract that too ?

Ok, now that's funny. Yeah, I see your point totally. I was getting tired of needlepoint anyway!

He has a point there!!

I do enjoy me some time in the lab...aah, kitchen...

At the same time, it's nice to be able to just open a piece of mail & extract the contents of the package too!!!

WS