Guys, I just experienced the most powerful psychedelic (pure vaped spice) experience of my entire life. Problem is there is NO WAY I could even begin to explain it. The fact is that I don't remember most of it. The two things I would like to offer to this forum are these however... I had all the lights in the house off except for two candles and some incense burning. I got to a point where I needed to purge. After filling up the small bowl on the table next to me I made my way to the bathroom. I kept thinking that I needed light to see, and thinking "how the eff am I going to find a light switch in this state of mind?" Then I suddenly realized I didn't need vision at all. At that point a small purge in the bathroom (I still dont know how I knew where the toilet was). The next vision I remember was one of the immaculate geometric patterns and beings that we all see at a breakthrough dose. The thing is that once I got over how beautiful it all was, I started asking "but what does it all mean?" Here is what was said to me and what I wrote down once I was capable of holding a pen:

"There is intelligent life existing beside us in a realm that huma...(unreadable but most likely the word "humans" We are not able to see... BUT they REALLY are there..."

I'm so fucking baffled right now. Am I just a drug induced madman or did this really all mean something? I know that no one can answer this question, but I'd love to hear some perspective.

I really wish I could express in words how damn intense this was, but I just don't seem to have the memory or words to truly express it. I'm educated, and generally very skeptical w/o scientific proof, but this really felt like it meant something.

I really believe we are not alone. I hope I'm not going mad...

Peace,
-idt

SWIM introduced a friend to DMT tonight and they had an amazing time - as always the spice taught her so many lessons she could do nothing but laugh in humility at it. Afterwards when they were talking she found herself explaining that she believes the wonderful morphing spaces are always there, we just don't see them, and we see the result of their doing their dances and it is the beautiful world around us. SWIM caught herself wondering if her friend thought her mad, then she saw this thread!

In full I'm not sure, the thought that it is just from our brains is definitely logical, but we could BOTH see the beauty - in our own ways, but we already all know we all perceive differently. If our perception is the world then as well, in our brains or not - that mystical energy could most definitely still be there, just outside of our normal perceptual range.

SWIM's friend reduced it down to brain misfirings. SWIM conceded that these things could all be true and right simultaneously, her friend just thinking it simple misfirings, although not meaning it in any bad way.

Interesting nontheless! If it IS our brains though, why would they want to make up imaginary beings of beauty that want nothing but to shower us in love and show they exist? Hmm, come to think of it, who wouldn't!? lol Mayhaps angels? Just thinking now, bedtime.

P.S. Before pushing off, SWIM's friend told her he believed we aren't alone in the galaxy. If nothing else, that means we are all still in agreement! At least we can all agree that SOMETHING is out there! and it's some kind of amazing

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I too have long since fallen into the skeptics crowd. It has, however, found equilibrium in that I suspend judgement until further notice. But these journeys!? Damn...

Each time I go I end up speaking of 'them' or 'they'. I have to catch myself. 'They' are sooo tricky or sometimes if conditions are below optimum, 'they' wouldn't let me in.

When the chemical is active in my brain, 'they' exist.

When they say the pen is mightier than the sword, they mean an idea is more powerful than a physical force. Perhaps they cannot affect us on a physical level, but the mere notion of their existence is enough to fuel long nights at the nexus. And that is never a bad thing.

The fact that the question cannot be answered by empirical evidence and/or normal human concsiousness may be the greatest gift 'they' could give us.

No i don't think you are mad at all Idtravlr, I am a person who questions everything but i feel Spice shows you exactly what you need to see at the time and i definitely think that Spice seems to be a door way to a Divine being existing in a higher state of consciousness. This being seems to only want the best for us and to show us their world and how beautiful it is, the being beams with compassion in my journeys i have only come across one being and its always been the same being. I don't think there is anything to be afraid of the more you let go and the more you are willing to open your mind the more you will learn and the more beauty you will see. The mind is like a parachute it only works when open

Just some of my thoughts stemmed from my own journeys and experience.


Much Peace

here is something that SWIM wrote in the depths of some spice...it was like automatic writing..



so this was RIGHT during a spice experience...SWIM was outside laying on the ground..hit the spice..and then...next thing he knows hes running down to his house and grabbed his journal and just started writing as fast as he could...granted this idea could be fleshed out a little bit..but you get the idea

Beautifully said Jorkest


Much Peace

booom, idtravlr nicely said, i felt exactly the same as you

The feeling is quit hard to get around, "what is this, what am i seeing, who else is here, is this real??"

and if you are going "mad", cool, hope im "mad" too.

And another upside, i found a place called "DMT-Nexus"

the Spice has opened up a whole new ball game for me, a world that id know about for years but never understood till recently.

wow dude, thats quite a paragraph
i would love to read sum more of SWIM's thoughts on this matter.

hold on, i think il just do more exploring of my own

I really like that above quote, hope you don't mind that i jot that one down

and for the original poster, i have had a very similar journey unfold with my dmt travels since i began, they seem to evolve from being totally alien, and the novelty aspect(breakthrough, machine elfs, the trip we all know and love), sort of the "introduction" if you will into the world, then as you progress and explore more, you realize that you are WAY more connected then you ever thought. You meet different entities, each has it's own role that is is assigned to do, the rhyme or reason, is the mystery of it all, and the question of is this another reality coexisting with our own? Or is this simply all in our head?

One thing is for sure, DMT is important. We all report very similar experiences, so that either means we ARE tuning into another channel of the tv, or we all have the same channel built in already. And are simply accessing something that is in our own minds (common consciousness sort of thing maybe?)

The idea of the "coexisting reality", is something i lean more towards, simply from what I've experienced.
If you have not seen this video, it will give a great idea to what i mean here.

Imagining the Tenth Dimension-Rob Bryanton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

also original poster, please take a quick chance to read through my recent experience post, as it is very similar to your trip here, they have let you know that they play a role in your life, at all times. Consider this a milestone at the least, do not me scared, and trust me when i say you are not crazy in the least. It's almost like breaking through a "breakthrough" in my opinion. They are actually sharing knowledge with you, interacting more and more, and the amazing thing is that not only do they ask you questions, but you can answer consciously and they actually acknowledge the answer, yet no words ever need be spoken.

Here is the link friend, seems we have both been greeted in a similar fashion.
http://www.dmt-nexus.me/...aspx?g=posts&t=4984

That is awesome idtravlr!! You are the only one who can decide how "real" it was.

But I tell ya, I had one breakthrough where I literally came out of in heavy tears saying, "thank you, thank you, I didn't know, thank you"!!
I'm not totally sure what it was I didn't know, but all I remember it this unmeasurable power, everywhere...and I really mean everywhere!!!
That & intense white light, as typical as that sounds.
Those two things may have been one-in-the-same as well, like I said I cant' remember much detail from that heavy one either, but I remember it happening, like I do the past couple minutes!!

To me, this kind of experience is what DMT is all about, so as far as I'm concerned, your not mad at all.
Maybe just a little crazy.


Oh & SpiceGirl, are you as beautiful as your avatar?

WS

Warrensaged - Thank you for that post! You just triggered another memory from the experience. I too was in tears at one point in that journey. I had completely forgot, and couldn't figure out why there was "water" drips all over my pants when I came to, but you just triggered that memory, I was crying at the beauty of it all, and joy I felt inside, the drips on my pants were my tears.

God I love The Nexus! Greatest place ever 2nd only to hyperspace!

Xenonsion - Yeah I've seen that series, but thanks for posting it. It never gets old, being that I never really fully get it

Here is an oldy but a timeless goody, from the late Carl Sagan. This one only explores the 4th dimension, but he explores it as an actual spacial dimension (as opposed to the more common idea of it being linear "time". It's commonly referred to as "Tetraspace" and there is a great site dedicated to it (I think it's tetraspace.org or something like that) I just love Sagan and his whimsical ways... Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIadtFJYWhw

I'm off to read your old post now. Thanks for the feedback!

Yip yip i have had tears streaming down my face both times i have smoked spice, the beauty of the world and Dimitri's compassion is awe inspiring and enlightening


Much Peace

Spicegirl that is so cool. Judging from our post times there is a quite reasonable chance that we were traveling at the same time! A mini SHE if you will

You know I also often wonder if what we are experiencing is memory's from the womb. Perhaps this is what a fetal being experiences in the very earliest stages of it's brains development. Maybe even these beings exist during that time of our development to help teach and prepare us for the world we are about to enter. Maybe this is where "instinct" comes from. Ohh the questions, ohhhh the questions...

WOW!

WS