Ben Frank wrote:You mentioned the veil of our physical reality that seems to overlay our spiritual existence and I wonder if you are hinting that you have encountered the 'veil' while under dmt?
I've experienced it full-bore via DMT but not only then.
This subject is one that can pull many flames and arguments but personally I'm on both sides.
There's people that say this world we experience is the one true world.
Others say it's just an illusion and completely fake.
I say, why can't we all just get along ?
I'm not
sure but to me it seems that there's multiple levels to reality. That what we normally experience is just as real as what we only can via meditation and other method of altering our consciousness.
Ben Frank wrote:
I firmly believe that our consciousnesses are fragments of a much larger consciousness that transcends this universe and everything we perceive to be physically existing in our world are but ideas in its' mind.
Ditto
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In the end I'm really not sure what to believe 100%.
I have my theories. A lot of my interest in DMT isn't just from things I've seen on it but things I've experienced in my life that carry the same kind of vibe.
I suppose I'm back here and back into Ayahuasca to try to see if I'm just crazy or if my thoughts are right.
I'm not afraid to sound crazy.
Most "crazy" experience I've had have luckily been confirmed by having other people around me so I'm sure it's not just all in my head.
One experience however involved one night we were camping (my & my fiance).
I was sitting in the woods kicking back a few beers when in the distance I saw an old man.
I thought this guy was one of the neighbors of the people that gave us permission to camp there and that we'd accidentally gone onto his property.
As he approached, I started to apologize for trespassing if we had and he said "Don't worry, that's not why I'm here".
That night we were discussing essentially what I'd said "Ditto" to up there.
The old man brought up the discussion we were having and told me "it's all true".
The thing about my (then girlfriend) at the time is, she was a little tipsy and I don't think she actually believed what was coming out of her mouth.
The old guy proceeded to tell me that I must figure out the truth.
The impression was that he wanted me to well, pretty much figure it all out (quite a task I must add).
I told him that "she would never understand" (my obsession with knowing) and he said "help her".
After that he vanished and I looked at my fiance and asked her "where did he go?"
She says "who?".
I say "the old man I was just talking to."
She then says "you weren't talking to anyone. I had asked you a question and you stopped in the middle of it to ask me where the guy you were speaking with went."
She was right to an extent - I did stop in the middle of answering a question.
What I realized was that it was awful bright while I was talking to the guy.
We had three torches surrounding us and I realized the whole time he was there, they never flickered and she never moved an inch nor said a word. It was like time stood still around us.
I started to wonder if the beer was contaminated (
) or something and kind of blew it off for the night but when we woke up, I couldn't help my curiosity.
I walked to where the old guy had first appeared. There was a perfect circle in the weeds with no path leading to it, only a path leading from it to me the exact way he walked up.
I'm sure this was real but the meaning behind it took a long time to really click.
What that is I can't really put into words. Think of trying to come out of a DMT trip and explain it all in a lucid manner in under 20 pages. Good luck.
I'm sure some people may read this and say "what a nut" but I assure you, I'm not.
Events before that struck my curiosity but that specific one has been what's driving my current search for knowledge and one of the main reasons I decided to get back into tryptamines.