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Just.Ask.The.Axis
#1 Posted : 3/27/2015 3:11:00 PM

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This thread needs more discussion https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=63640

Cannabis edibles can be dangerous if not taken seriously. I'm lucky enough to be in a legal state and that story hits home. Not many folks I know, veteran smokers or newbies, understand the benefits and dangers of oral cannabis.

I searched health and safety and did not see anything there. Let's lead the way in helping the community understand how edibles work and why you should or should not take them.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/27/2015 4:46:36 PM

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So why not contribute to that thread instead of making a secondary thread? Wink
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#3 Posted : 3/27/2015 5:04:49 PM

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Well, I don't want to sound sour. But, I'm not a full member Confused

When the time is right I guess. Drool
 
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#4 Posted : 3/27/2015 5:36:12 PM

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yes, new member like us are limited, but it's a good thing, so only with experience and good attitude you became full member...like start with the spice...

Anyway, the first time i try to eat cannabis, was a good hash, me and some friend, make a strong irish cofee, i don't remember how much hash we use but for us, expert smokers, was a little thing, so we tried...after some good feeling we find us in the forest, was a rain day, and look each to other in strange way....no one has an idea why we was there...

Ok, this for say that it's very much strong eated, i was very surprised.

Then if a person have some real problems, for me, don't have to use nothing about drugs and substances, also smoke cannabis can be dangerous in some situation, i have friend that after smoke some good herbs they go out, like a strong lsd and came beck with mental problems.

Sorry for my english.
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#5 Posted : 3/27/2015 6:26:26 PM

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That's a good point Axis. I didn't even think of that myself actually.. I miss that a lot.. that only FM's can post in certain areas of the forum. My apologies. Nevertheless, it's an important topic that concerns those who partake.

Well, from my perspective, edibles only take some responsibility and care before consuming them. That's it. Anyone who involves themselves with that route should know what they're getting into. Just like ethanol or nicotine. Purchased psychoactives are not the problem, it is the fact that some are just merely misinformed.. or I suppose otherwise are mentally unbalanced to make rational choices. People harm (or even kill) themselves with alcohol all the time. I don't know the exact number or rate of deaths from yearly booze consumption, but why blame the plant when the death rate for cannabis is zero? Clearly there is more to be seen here. Most often it is an inner illness residing within themselves and behave uncontrollably.

A tough situation to crack. Neutral
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#6 Posted : 3/27/2015 6:36:43 PM

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xa wrote:

Anyway, the first time i try to eat cannabis, was a good hash, me and some friend, make a strong irish cofee, i don't remember how much hash we use but for us, expert smokers, was a little thing, so we tried...after some good feeling we find us in the forest, was a rain day, and look each to other in strange way....no one has an idea why we was there...



I love that!! But seriously, that's my point. You can eat too much. This is slowly becoming a rite of passage I believe, like alcohol in college. At 30 I would never chug a bottle of booze but at 17 I was ready and willing. Same with a lot of things, as I mature I'm into less. Less of everything.

I don't want to resort to scare tactics. We need truthful statements to come out and pre-date the media and their brainwash reports. I want cannabis to lead the way. I want the legality of cannabis to shed light on the benefits of plant medicine.
 
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#7 Posted : 3/27/2015 6:46:35 PM

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Cognitive Heart wrote:
Purchased psychoactives are not the problem, it is the fact that some are just merely misinformed.. or I suppose otherwise are mentally unbalanced to make rational choices. People harm (or even kill) themselves with alcohol all the time. I don't know the exact number or rate of deaths from yearly booze consumption, but why blame the plant when the death rate for cannabis is zero? Clearly there is more to be seen here. Most often it is an inner illness residing within themselves and behave uncontrollably.

A tough situation to crack. Neutral


Most often it is an inner illness. I agree, and this shows that cannabis is not for everyone. And on the other hand it is safer than most scripts.

I don't want big pharma to use the idea that cannabis is harmless (like phillip morris did with Tobacco) and try to squeeze the life out of the grass roots efforts to "grow you own medicine" I feel like we live in a changing environment and it's so easy to be persuaded. You know, like if you want to have a blast on the beach with hot women and volleyball, just grab a 6 pack of corona beer. That's real life 'cause I seen it on a tv commercial. How are they going to portray a cannabis smoker on their advertisements? What does the future of cannabis look like?
 
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#8 Posted : 3/27/2015 6:50:00 PM

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When I was sixteen I made two bowls of porridge with one gram of hash in each, but the taste was so horrible that I couldn't finish them both and I flushed one in the toilet. As it turned out, one gram was more than enough for quite a heavy experience so I'm glad I didn't take two.
I was lucky that this porridge was so horrible- cookies or cake would've ended differently.
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#9 Posted : 3/27/2015 7:14:03 PM

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Just.Ask.The.Axis wrote:
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Most often it is an inner illness. I agree, and this shows that cannabis is not for everyone. And on the other hand it is safer than most scripts. I don't want big pharma to use the idea that cannabis is harmless (like phillip morris did with Tobacco) and try to squeeze the life out of the grass roots efforts to "grow you own medicine" I feel like we live in a changing environment and it's so easy to be persuaded. You know, like if you want to have a blast on the beach with hot women and volleyball, just grab a 6 pack of corona beer. That's real life 'cause I seen it on a tv commercial. How are they going to portray a cannabis smoker on their advertisements? What does the future of cannabis look like?


Yes, correct, it is not. Black out's are not uncommon either.. once I almost passed out from the 3rd or 4th time I used cannabis as a parachute method.. but only once out of the 4 years I've been using cannabis did I ever succumb to almost passing out. Sometimes daily use. Although right now I'm on a bit of a break just to clear some thoughts. I'd say it is safer than all prescription drugs.. I mean how many deaths per year from those? Well, over 1,000 to 2,000.. including the extremely common caffeine molecule. If it were me, I wouldn't purchase or abide by cannabis unless I knew exactly how it was grown and cared for.. or at least from others I can trust.

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#10 Posted : 3/27/2015 8:22:39 PM

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I bet we could gather a few reports of bad experiences from some folks here. This is not meant to bash cannabis. I love it myself, use for lots of reasons. It really helps my stomach and my appetite.

I have a hard time believing that 10 mgs of THC is an adult "serving". I've been past 100, or that's what the label said. But then again ....

http://www.thecannabist....regulations-feb-1/28775/

http://www.foodsafetynew...fused-food/#.VRW5tvzF-8I

No one has enforced it until now. With none to little real education for the public and no regulations for labeling, there can be issues. And when issues arrive we shouldn't black list the substance used unless we know the full story.

My point is only to look at cannabis as multiple things. It can help, it can be fun, but it can also be a bit dangerous. Edibles are popular because of the covert way one can use it. The people that feel the need to hide are most likely less experienced and that can create a health risk. When I've experienced a "overdose" on oral cannabis I feel a heaviness in my chest that makes it hard breathe and after awhile I fall asleep. Nothing to create a state wide PSA about. But if we don't educate and talk openly we might see more incidences like the one linked above.
 
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#11 Posted : 3/28/2015 12:58:53 AM

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My first and only experience with cannabis edibles was probably the worst experience on a mind altering substance. The edible I had was a muffin. The herb was just mixed in and the guy who made them didn't bother to make it into butter first; so it tasted awful. As soon as I started to feel something, it quickly turned into sickness. I felt like puking for days afterwards. Not recommended.

Even though it can expose you to unwanted carcinogens, I feel smoking gives the best experience. Vaporizing is another option.
 
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#12 Posted : 3/28/2015 8:40:57 PM
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I love edibles!
When I smoke i get anxiety, but not with edibles.
I get more of an opiate sedation from them. Some friends get a psychedelic like effect from edibles.
My favorite is weed butter on toast with jelly lol.
I enjoy it but edibles aren't for everyone. They pack a punch!
 
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#13 Posted : 3/29/2015 12:02:15 AM

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I think that cannabis truly becomes medicinal when taken orally. You can bring out different characteristics when cooking or decarbing. Anyone heard of Badkat?
 
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#14 Posted : 3/30/2015 11:43:22 AM

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im not a full member either so i can not contribute on the other thread.

but firstly how his family can claim there was no signs of suicidal behaviour or depression is nonesense.

i've battled with depression for a long time. none and i mean none of my family know they all think im perfectly happy and have no issues, and im not going to be anywhere near so stupid but i've even had suicidal thoughts which im past now. but they have no idea what is going on in this guys mind.

what the fuck were his friends doing? if my friends were in such a position i'd sort them out and i mean by physical restraining if i had to. it sounds like a shit situation tbh and i feel sorry for the kid. but i would not blame cannabis for the problem.

I don't know the full situation of each and every individual involved but im sure what lead to this could have been avoided. the article is clearly aimed at scaring people. how many people die from alcohol related incidents of suicide? lets face it if you take any type of drug you face some change in circumstance which could eventually cause a death.

this was totally preventable, but its hard to say whether he knew what he was doing and he did it because he needed the balls to do what he wanted.. or it was a complete fuck up he took too much and was fucked.

I wonder what would have happened if he had done this here in the UK, I mean he would not have had a gun for one maybe he would have found an alternate route I dont know.

The biggest concern for me is what the fuck his friend was doing, I think this should have been totally preventable.. his friend should have looked after him, put him to bed I mean they should have been looking back at this remembering the time they fucked up and he had to be looked after, not remember the time he ate to much and shot his self in the head because no one stayed with him after he was a fucking mess..

a bit of joke tbh and a sad, sad lose
 
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#15 Posted : 3/31/2015 8:51:18 PM

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Edibles is the only way i can take THC (and only like 4-5 times a month), otherway i feel like my body energy gets very thick and i cant be part of the ocean , but feeling like a rock on the bottom .. I had a lot of experience with Marijuana but i finally understood its not for me .. Cannabutter does the thing great ( now i taking a very small amount and feelin' it ) for relaxing your muscles and take thats everydays stress away .. But once again not for everyday use ..

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It seems to be an individual tolerance and experience type of situation, I've lived off cannibutter and toast for a month straight before, but I have friends that are supper sensitive to edibles. Also, its really just like anything, if your head isn't in a good place then anything can upset your mental balance, I don't see how concentrated THC would be any different.
 
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Oh boy, everybody has had their bad edible story.

10 years ago I ate a quarter of a homemade brownie, waited two hours and felt nothing, so I munched down the rest. I swear like 10 seconds after I swallowed the effects of the first quarter of the brownie started kicking in hard. Once the rest of it kicked in, I was scared to even stand up. Was hosting a bonfire at my party. Had to pee so bad and still wouldn't get up for fear I would pass out.

Homemade edibles can be tricky because of the fluctuation in potency depending on where the weed infused butter, oil, coco oil etc might disperse in a baking tray. Even legal edibles can be a bit tricky.

I recently got a hold of a huge edible nerds rope that was about 10 inches long and the person I got it from didn't know how much was in it, so I played it safe and ate one inch off of it. I was sleeping in 2 hours HAHA.

Lesson: Start very small, work your way up until you find the right amount for yourself. Too much can be very bad.
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Edible cannabis can be like a full on psychedelic experience. In terms of effects there is no better way to take cannabis, than to eat it.

Because of different metabolisation, the effects are much more psychedelic that way, than when it is being smoked. And also much more euphoric. And you can easily ingest very large amounts.
 
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#20 Posted : 3/14/2019 7:36:37 PM

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Edibles should never be taken by weed newbies.
You need to have a proper history of use to properly deal with edibles and their possible "bad side".

Tolerance always helps and also people who tend to get paranoid from weed should just avoid them alltogether.
 
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