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Memories of the trip coming back for the first time after a week Options
 
Varox
#1 Posted : 3/25/2015 5:46:36 PM

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My last trip was difficult. Now I understand it was a NDE but thats all ok. What fascinated me is that vivid memories of the trip including feelings (which helped me understand the trip) came back to me after almost a week of the trip itself! and I knew perfectly well where the memory was coming from, whereas right after the trip I could not remember much at all and had only been left with the feeling that something had not went well.

Is this something that normally happens? My flashbacks were SO vivid and they just seemed to pop out of nowhere while I was for example doing groceries. In fact I can now call upon the memory as if it were something I actually lived (which I did in a way). I am grateful for it though as it enormously helped the integration of my NDE trip which I now cherish for what it was. But still I find it pretty amazing.
 

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Artemis
#2 Posted : 3/25/2015 7:57:27 PM

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I have had trouble recalling details after I have returned, nuch like how the memory of a dream fades if you do not write it down right away. Though, subsequent trips always bring that strong deja vu feeling and familiarity as soon as reality starts collapsing. I would imagine the delayed recall is again like a dream. In the middle of the day, you remember a dream for no apparent reason. I have even had delayed dream recall where it felt like the dream occurred years before.

Interesting topic. I'm curious to hear what more experienced members think. How do others recall details from a trip than simply forgetting everything once back to base line?
 
Varox
#3 Posted : 3/26/2015 9:22:31 AM

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As of a couple of hours back I have also had my first DMT dream. I dreamed I was on a beach or a huge playa, laying down on the sand. I did not smoke spice or anything but I knew I was there to trip. So while laying down on the sand I felt the sensation of being sucked into the trip and I was smiling... Thats actually all I remember but I still find it amazing how connected with dreams and memory DMT is.
 
Artemis
#4 Posted : 3/27/2015 5:55:35 AM

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Very interesting.. A prevailing hypothesis is that DMT is the source of altered consciousness states such as dreams during REM sleep. Also, the pineal gland... after years of abuse to our bodies through toxic substances, our pineal gland becomes calcified. It is no wonder we lose touch with the fantastical dreams of our childhood. DMT brings us back to a state of pure conciousness before we developed our grounded ego
 
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#5 Posted : 3/30/2015 7:50:51 PM

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I'm mostly responding to each post in this thread but specifically the one below and then the OP.

Artemis wrote:
Very interesting.. A prevailing hypothesis is that DMT is the source of altered consciousness states such as dreams during REM sleep. Also, the pineal gland... after years of abuse to our bodies through toxic substances, our pineal gland becomes calcified. It is no wonder we lose touch with the fantastical dreams of our childhood. DMT brings us back to a state of pure conciousness before we developed our grounded ego


As much as it may be a "hypothesis" and I would never say it's a "sure thing", I agree with it to an extent. The whole pineal gland and calcification concept, I don't know enough to speculate with certainty but there is however one thing I'm sure of - DMT and dream recall seems very much one in the same.

I used to try to practice OOBE and other things. There's been a couple occasions where I can swear I've made it out of myself so to say but as soon as I realized it, I was immediately snapped back so I cannot be sure they weren't just dreams. Around that phase though, I recalled my dreams with ease.

After growing up more and getting caught up in day to day life, I quit paying attention. Eventually, it seemed like I didn't even have dreams.

Fast forward to the beginning of my DMT usage... Except for a few extreme experiences, I could never recall them after.

Lately though I can remember nearly every "second" of these experiences. Recently I started doing DMT daily for certain reasons. I've kind of had to put a break on this though because I haven't felt the same "calling" lately. I know that if I don't feel it's the right time, I will have a bad time.

Anyway .. The daily DMT - as short as it was - and prior experiences have gotten me into a specific set of habits during the "comedown" that I also used for dreams recently.

1) I make a point of moving the least possible.
2) I make a point of trying as hard as possible to focus on/prolong the experience - easier said than done.
3) I always have my fiance by me.
4) Once I reach the point that I can speak just clearly enough, I as quietly as possible explain in as much detail as I can to my fiance everything that happened, everything I felt, everything I saw and everything I heard or was told.

These are simple things you can do. If you don't have a person in the room with you, try a tape recorder. To be quite honest though, I don't need her to say anything back to me. It's like the act of repeating the experience out-loud solidifies the memories in my mind.

Now's the point .. Since I've started doing that, I've noticed many many many dreams at night that are extremely vivid. Could it be the DMT? Could it be the way I'm training my brain? Who really knows ... I can however remember almost every moment of all of my dreams and even my DMT experiences now - without having to repeat them verbally.

What assumptions people make from this is up to them. Are DMT and dreams tied together? I think they very well could be but in the end I suggest anyone curious about remembering their dreams and/or DMT experiences try it if they don't already.

Some people may get nothing from this but I'm sure at least someone will. Hope it helps you OP.

On that note Varox, I think what you're experiencing is common. There's many times in my life that I've had that happen and I'm sure we're not alone though. As you said they're amazing to recall. I've had the same happen with dreams and DMT experiences in the past. What's more amazing is being able to remember them without the sudden flashes. Maybe try what I posted above, maybe try something else. There's nothing worse than sitting for a week wondering "WTF just happened? I can't remember!" haha ... That used to drive me nuts.

Anyway as I post here more some of you may notice my posts are somewhat long. I don't mean to jack threads. I simply rarely reply/post unless I see an opportunity to potentially help along the way and at that point, there's usually a lot to say.
 
Varox
#6 Posted : 3/30/2015 11:22:08 PM

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Very interesting insights, thank you. The whole relationship of what you mentioned (the relationship between DMT, dreams and memory, the pineal gland and let me add the soul) fascinates me.
On a different note, I don't know if I have a problem remembering my trips. So far I had 3 breakthroughs of which 2 were very positive and I remember them quite well. The other one was the bad trip and it's like I blacked out after the trip. Like if my mind chose to forget. Though when I get those flashes I know exactly that the flashed memory was part of the bad trip.
Having said that, I am curious about the whole memory training thingy and around a week ago I started doing some brain exercises everyday, including memory exercises. Too early to tell if I notice any difference. Hopefully I will notice a difference during my next hyper-spatial voyage.
 
 
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