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starway6
#1 Posted : 3/21/2015 5:07:07 PM

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I slowly melted a pile of acacia crystals into a small metal scale dish and it melted into an amnber oil very quickly the same way it melts in a pipe when vaping it..and the pile size shrunk way smaller!

Something i noticed was that the [crystal oil] dryed very quickly!.. almost rock hard and thought this would be an easy way to make dmt tablets if it is poured into small pill molds!

Origionaly..The pile of crystals looked much larger than the now dryed hardened oll in metal dish..

While melting the crystals i noticed no visable vapor at all.. but am amazed at how small the 2 gram sized pile of crystals shrunk so small!..[and wondered if the melting process destroyed any of the crystals some how?

Ill try to send a photo of my melted rock hard crystals below...

When crystals melt and cool off again they dry rock hard?

But when drying any dmt goo it stayes gummy and very slowly gets wax like ..but doesnt harden this quickly like cement..but instead can take days to get handelable..

I havent test smoked any yet but hope its still good..

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concombres
#2 Posted : 3/21/2015 6:24:03 PM

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Weigh it & see if it lost any weight.

The tray from my scale got dropped into a jar of heptane with a glob of thick yellow spice that hadn't dissolved on the bottom the other day & it came out covered in stuff that looked just like that.

It just doesn't come out as fluffy because it isn't as spread out throughout a liquid like with precipitation & doesn't have the space or time to form a nice crystal lattice.
 
starway6
#3 Posted : 3/21/2015 10:51:16 PM

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concombres wrote:
Weigh it & see if it lost any weight.

The tray from my scale got dropped into a jar of heptane with a glob of thick yellow spice that hadn't dissolved on the bottom the other day & it came out covered in stuff that looked just like that.

It just doesn't come out as fluffy because it isn't as spread out throughout a liquid like with precipitation & doesn't have the space or time to form a nice crystal lattice.


Well..i didnt weight it at first.. but the pile crystals apeared that it could easily fill 3 or 4 500mg capsules...meaning atleast ..[one and a half to two grams of crystals]

I know guessing by eye is far from acurate.. but the pile shure did shrink!... and compress into this hard material shown in picture...

Im going to smoke some as a test im shure it isnt lye..[because of the way it melted into an amber oil]...im more carefull than that...

I expect it to be still active spice but..could something else have crystalized that wasnt very pure acacia spice?>...

These crystals i will show below percipitated while in the napatha pull...could they be NMT crystals...?

Looking at them through a jewlers loop... they apeared to be hundreds of little white straight crystal spikes...



Im going to send the pictures of the crystals while damp in bottom of napatha jar and after dryed and broken up apearing like table salt...then end result after melting the fast hardening crystals in metal dish...

Any opinions??
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concombres
#4 Posted : 3/21/2015 11:55:44 PM

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starway6 wrote:
concombres wrote:
Weigh it & see if it lost any weight.

The tray from my scale got dropped into a jar of heptane with a glob of thick yellow spice that hadn't dissolved on the bottom the other day & it came out covered in stuff that looked just like that.

It just doesn't come out as fluffy because it isn't as spread out throughout a liquid like with precipitation & doesn't have the space or time to form a nice crystal lattice.


Well..i didnt weight it at first.. but the pile crystals apeared that it could easily fill 3 or 4 500mg capsules...meaning atleast ..[one and a half to two grams of crystals]

I know guessing by eye is far from acurate.. but the pile shure did shrink!... and compress into this hard material shown in picture...

Im going to smoke some as a test im shure it isnt lye..[because of the way it melted into an amber oil]...im more carefull than that...

I expect it to be still active spice but..could something else have crystalized that wasnt very pure acacia spice?>...

These crystals i will show below percipitated while in the napatha pull...could they be NMT crystals...?

Looking at them through a jewlers loop... they apeared to be hundreds of little white straight crystal spikes...



Im going to send the pictures of the crystals while damp in bottom of napatha jar and after dryed and broken up apearing like table salt...then end result after melting the fast hardening crystals in metal dish...

Any opinions??


Looks like the chunk is just very dense compressed spice.

If it was white before melting, it may have acquired some yellow coloration from the heat & also when condensed into a small area any yellow coloration that may have been left over but not visible when spread out will be more concentrated & visible.

If your concerned about lye contamination break the chunk down, do a sodium carbonate wash, after do a distilled water wash, then re-crystallize in heptane or naphtha.

My spice even after a mini a/b & sodium carbonate wash turns out yellow sometimes & re-xing say 2g in heptane will melt the spice into a thick gooey mass. At 100°f the heptane picks up a little yellow coloration still so lower temperatures may be neccessary. Maybe 70°f.
I usually use 15ml heated heptane to melt & pick up some spice, leave in water bath & swirl every couple minutes. Making sure to remove from bath when temp of heptane starts rising too much.
Remove the 15ml via pipette & squirt into a clean pyrex dish then use a fresh 15ml to pull more from the melted spice goo.

Usually by 3 or 4 15ml heptane pulls the mass of the goo decreases & the coloration of what remains gets darker almost brown or sometimes orange.
 
starway6
#5 Posted : 3/22/2015 3:30:10 AM

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Well i finaly tryed some of the hardened dmt cement ..and it was a little slow on effects at first..

Trying only a peice about the size of the corner of my fingernail i noticed that it slowly started to melt giving me a fairly thick hit at first and i could feel it ..it was defenantly DMT!

It looked a little like a peice of butter taken out of the freezer that was slowly melting and popping a little..

After first atempt...I thought that it may be a little weak also thinking that it was spent.. but i found out that it was far from spent!.. as i tryed another round and it vaped with a little crackeling noise..[similar to opiated hash]..

Durring second round..It started more visual .. and i closed my eyes and it became very visual and colorfull..

A very small peice of this hardened spice represented a decient sized dose of crystal i thought because of its density...

I had a great trip.. and found that my glass pipe still had more in it for tomorrow as i could see and feel a thick sticky oil every where in the clear glass bowl and stem of unused spice...

I think my whole problem could be corrected by getting a higher quality pipe!

 
 
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