Hello Nexians,

First off I didn't know where to post this since it is discussing both LSD and DMT, so I put it in this section. I am curious about taking 6 hits of LSD and vaporizing DMT at the peak of the LSD Trip. Terence McKenna definitely inspired this for me and at the same time I am really nervous just because of the intensity of DMT by itself. I also am going to try a LSD, Cyanescens mix because for me LSD just has this vibration that isn't really a body high and with Cyanescens it's the opposite, for me. LSD, for me, is more of a visual trip and Cyanescens are more of a Body trip so I figure if I mix the two it will be the best of both worlds. Also LSD, for me, doesn't really have a Mind of it's own where as Cyanescens is a interactive spirit. Does anyone have any experiences with these types of Journeys. I would be interested in knowing others input on these ideas?

P.S. Does the LSD extend the life of the DMT and also the Mushroom mix?

I have done this twice. I took five hits of LSD and smoked freebase DMT at peak and twice when coming down from the trip. I would have to say that the DMT at peak was the most intense. When I returned from my DMT journey I was still tripping very hard and the DMT journey seemed to linger in my trippy head. I also felt amazing. Just at awe with all that was going on. It was very intense but so worth it.

The times I smoked when coming down from the LSD trip was not as intense but it had a certain mellow quality to it. I was relaxed and in a great state of mind after tripping LSD. I always feel great after LSD. Pumped up and charged up!

I highly recommend that you go ahead and go with your plan. I am jealous as I would love to be doing that at this very moment. I will most certainly be repeating the combo.

P.S. I will be trying mushrooms and DMT soon. I'll certainly let ya know how that goes.

In the interests of harm reduction/avoidance may I add that:

1.Make sure your LSD is actually that;

2.Know the strength of your tabs (probably best via direct experience) as 5-6 hits of a well-laden blotter could give the user much more than they bargained for.

It is an interesting combination thats for sure, I smoked some on the come up and the visuals doubled in size, while previously I was seeing small letters engraved everywhere they then became huge! It also seemed to centre me nicely the acid manic fuzz of thoughts became a grounded monologue revelling in the experience, like driving a motorbike then straight after a steady ford focus.

Mushrooms and DMT was thinking I could see the fabric of spacetime when I was watching aircraft slice through it.
Im not so sure about stoned ape theory after this, its easy to go from highly perceptive hunter gatherer to on his back what the fuck is the universe?? I would imagine with no cultural or societal dogma such as the war and drugs or prohibition they would have munched those plants and shrooms they discovered with enthusiastic vigour in order to meet these otherworldly beings from fuck knows where and the ability to function and therefore reproduce was no doubt limited

Actually doing DMT on LSD is an easier experience. That is assuming you are feeling fantastic on the LSD... I have only done it once (well past the peak) and found that it provides a nice launching platform to both jump from and return to. I have only done it once however..

I am curious why you feel the need to drop 6 hits of acid and then do DMT at the peak.. 6 hits of good acid (100ugs hits) would put almost anyone into LSD's version of hyperspace already and likely induce an experience that will last 16-24 hours.

Remember this.. DMT can take you ALL the way on it's own.. no reason to try and time the exact peak hoping that you can go further.. wait until you are in a nice comfortable afterglow and do it is my honest advice...

Second that. There is no anxiousness and whatsoever... So easy and smooth experience. Of coarse if you don`t have hard times on lucy at this moment. Also highly recommend to smoalk on peak of lsd trip. In my first LSDMT i dropped ~400ug of high quality lsd and smoalked on peak of that trip. Maaan it was most profound experience that i ever had. Another time i dropped something in 250ug range and smoalked multiple times, maybe 4 or 5 times. On peak and during coming down. There is possible little anxiousness if you are blasting off on coming down but not a big deal... Anyway... Do it man! You won`t regret.

LSD and DMT was and still is one of the most profound combinatory experiences i've experienced, possibly verging on the most profound experience to date (and I don't mean 'most intense).

I agree with joedirt completely. I've taken a hit of LSD and smoked a couple stiff hits right after the peak. I remember looking over at the changa pipe on the table, thinking "..I'll smoke this now"; no trepidation, anxiousness, nervousness, etc whatsoever. Honestly, already being neck deep in the LSD experience, the thought of smoking the changa was akin to me picking up a pipe of weed to smoke; no second-guessing at all. The visual intensity of this combination is beyond stunning, beyond jaw-dropping, yet all the while completely manageable, both mentally and physically. At no point was I worried.

I agree with joedirt also regarding those dosing combinations. I mean, it's your body and mind, which you know it best, but you could potentially be biting off more than you can chew, imho. Either way, hope it all unravels smoothly for you.

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I took a huge drop of pure LSD once, I'm sure it equally at least 5 "hits", and planned on smoking DMT at the peak, but once the peak came around, I was already maxed out, I couldn't do it, I was just already maxed completely out. I did smoke some about 5 hours later, and it was very, very enjoyable, no stress involved. I say just see how you feel. I had it all set up right there for me but couldn't. Plan for it, but you will just have to see, there is only one way to find out.

I am also jealous, wish I had the time to do that these days!...

I am actually stepping back from my regular doses of 10-12 hits which, yes at that dose I am already in the LSD Hyperspace. The other weekend I smoked about 60-70mg of DMT freebase out of a meth bong and I have got to say that that was the most intense I've ever experienced with smoking DMT. Before it was just a marihuana pipe and those were so hit or miss kind of experiences. When I tried the meth bong for the first time it was like my first experience all over again, full breakthrough. I will probably step back the DMT to like 30-40mgs but this is DMT fumarate but I don't know if that makes a difference.

Either tolerance is at play very strongly, or your lsd is extremely weak.
3 tabs of lsd as of the last few years has proven to be breakthrough territory for everyone who i have taken lsd with who hasn't been building ridiculous tolerance by dosing too frequently. This has all been from batches confirmed to be lsd through reagent & lab tests.

As for dmt fumarate, convert it to freebase before smoking. Its easy.

Maybe wait for tolerance to drop for a few months if you require a 10strip to get to the otherside.

It is good, not as strong as the last batch I had but I like it to be really intense like borderline insane. For me it has to be high doses because I get those ground breaking experiences that way. I dose lower if I'm hosting a Ceremony for other people but generally I like Strong experiences. 3 hits get me there but I like it when I get fully immersed visuals.

P.S. My friend told me to get Syrian Rue to extract the Harmaline so that I can get those high dose experiences with just one hit.

To be fair, some people really do take >10 hits of really bomb LSD. I would consider myself one of those people. I've recently had some extremely clean reagent tested LSD and while 300ug is an intense and enlightening experience, I also liked taking 1000ug and, on one occasion, (accidentally) 1800ug. Such doses are life changing but not unmanageable.

Just throwing that out there, though I understand and agree with the point you were making. Often times high dosage is compensating for low purity or other characteristics, however high dosage in and of itself is perfectly alright when done safely.

EDIT: @DMiTria, using MAOIs with LSD is quite the ride! I recommend it!