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MrHonekyDonkey
#181 Posted : 3/9/2015 5:25:10 PM
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Well guys, I got some good news. As soon as I poured the 200ml of water that had lye my acidified water turned milky as pictured in the tek, and that has never happened before Big grin the only bad thing is that I ran out of naphtha so I have the container covered until I buy some more Razz
Thanks everyone for the help, I really appreciate it Thumbs up
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Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
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#182 Posted : 3/9/2015 9:09:17 PM

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That looks much much better! Well done. I'll be very surprised if you don't get a good yield from that.
 
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#183 Posted : 3/10/2015 12:06:16 AM

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Does anyone agree that too much vinegar water was uses there.? That may affect yield. I can posy ehat mine look like in a minute
 
MrHonekyDonkey
#184 Posted : 3/10/2015 12:21:50 AM
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Someone told me to try & add 20% more vinegar because I was having trouble with the tek & maybe that would've helped
 
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#185 Posted : 3/10/2015 1:04:00 AM

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MrHonekyDonkey wrote:
Someone told me to try & add 20% more vinegar because I was having trouble with the tek & maybe that would've helped


I think tydel's comment was in reference to the volume of water and acid in your cleanup step. I don't think there's any issue. I've found a 2:1 ratio of water to solvent is generally enough in the cleanup but I've gone 3:1 without problem. As long as its properly acidic it should pull all the alkaloids out of the solvent.

I had told you to add extra acid in another thread just in case you weren't hitting the desired pH window given you don't have a pH meter. It was only because I don't find Acetic acid to be a particularly strong acid. Getting the acid solution below a pH of 2 hasn't been overly detrimental when I've messed around with a few different pH levels so a little more is better than not enough.

Switching to HCl was one of the better things I've done so far. Seems to protonate DMT better, but I have no evidence to back that up other than my own observations.
 
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#186 Posted : 3/10/2015 1:17:05 AM

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I see. I always have my acid solution down to lil over half a liter. I run this rough my NPS in 3rds. 3 times over over bout 20 min
 
MrHonekyDonkey
#187 Posted : 3/13/2015 5:45:58 PM
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Hi everyone, I'm back with a noob question. I've had my DMT floating around in my jar now for a few days & it's not milky anymore. I wanted to know if the yield gets affected in any way depending on how long you have it floating around? I ordered some Naphtha online & it might get here today or next week that's why.
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DeltaSpice
#188 Posted : 3/14/2015 3:04:38 PM

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Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.
Maybe some one can give me their 2 cents worth?
I performed an extraction with powdered MHRB last weekend. I've been using the same method for years . Its not a known tek or maybe it is, I haven't read up on all the different tek's.
From my 360 grams of powder I yielded 1 gram of super white spice haha I know... So I re washed the slag with more heat and got another 2 grams of spice , white with a tad of yellow ish . That's 3g in total.
Normally I'd get about 5 grams ,clean and washed spice.
What I think is that maybe the root bark is old, a few years old, although it looks good maybe it has deteriorated in some way due to its age , hence the low yield.
Does anyone know what happens to powdered MHRB when it gets too old?
Does the DMT return to hyperspace or some thing Surprised
I still have a kilo left, I pray it hasn't gone off.
Cheers..
 
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#189 Posted : 3/14/2015 3:42:06 PM
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please look up cybs max ion tek, you are wasting allot.

as for your question about what happens to it, the stuff grabs oxygen and becomes an oxide, if you use xylene you can still grab it or you could throw wome zinc and an oxygen scrubber into the mix to remove all the floating oxygen, then do the extration, but test it out with a much small batch than 1/3 a kilo.
 
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#190 Posted : 3/14/2015 5:19:03 PM

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Hello everyone.I've been having a problem with the freeze part of the extraction acrb 100g tek.I leave my pulls in the freezer for 24 hours and I'm barely getting anything more than a few specs of crystals in the pan.Is the problem with the root bark maybe because when I put it in the freezer it turns milky white instantly.Any thoughts?I'm new to this but I follow the steps correctly.Any imput would be nice thank you.
 
bnutz
#191 Posted : 3/14/2015 5:37:59 PM

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Leave it in the freezer longer maybe.Confused
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#192 Posted : 3/14/2015 6:40:37 PM

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Try evaporating your pulls longer. The solvent should be milky white before it goes in the freezer.
 
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#193 Posted : 3/15/2015 1:10:34 AM
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They are said to contain DMT and one strain even has some sort of an MAOI.
 
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#194 Posted : 3/15/2015 1:31:23 AM

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'The Genus Desmodium'
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DeltaSpice
#195 Posted : 3/16/2015 3:20:00 PM

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Does Vaporizing Changa work?
What I mean is will the Harmala vaporise.
I have a bong and a GVG, I just thought I'd ask before I filthy up my GVG plus I don't wanna accidently just vape DMT , my DMT vaping days are over. Its Changa or nothing for me.
Thanks
 
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#196 Posted : 3/16/2015 3:35:27 PM

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Sure you can vaporize it my friend. This is even smoother then using pipe. I always go for pipe as I am lazy to clean up my GVG Smile . I use GVG only for pure spice.
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DeltaSpice
#197 Posted : 3/16/2015 4:25:53 PM

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I'll give it a bash then, it would be rude not to .
I just feel sorry for my GVG , it was kind of a waste of money. I have tried only once to breakthrough with it and had no joy, on an excursion to the woods.
Nower days I only smoke Changa indoors with rizlas.
I'll try it out tonight Drool
Cheers.
 
BioBoostedSpirit
#198 Posted : 3/16/2015 7:05:06 PM

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Hello Everyone !!! Love I was browsing this site for a couple of weeks now and its just Great !! Very good info ,and thank you all of you guys for sharing it ,keep it going << Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up

The only thing i need is some info on Hexane .Hexane is the only non polar solvent i can find here and gonna extract with it.I also made an evaporation test and it looks very clean without any odors left.

Can you guys tell me if Hexane has the same ratio for extraction as Naphtha (1ml per gram of bark ***For example Noman's tek***)? Also does freeze precipitation method going to work with hexane? Any other info or tips on Hexane would be appreciated a lot Thumbs up Thumbs up Thumbs up <<<<<

Thank you for your help

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#199 Posted : 3/16/2015 8:23:36 PM

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Just go for it Smile
 
sorahtak
#200 Posted : 3/17/2015 5:45:28 PM

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Every STB tek on here seems to utilize lye. SInce meth kinda went and ruined that for everyone (plus it's just nasty stuff anyway) can calcium hydroxide be used instead without making any other alterations to all these teks, or does it depend on the particular tek being used?

My guess would be that you'd just need to half the moles of NaOH being called for since you'd be using Ca(OH)2 instead.
 
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