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th3fitz
#1 Posted : 1/23/2015 10:48:29 PM

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Currently using https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...lkaloid_Extraction_Guide -- Cooled down to room temp and then added the lye solution. nothing happened except it turned very dark.

I ended up adding more lye soulution (5g/50ml) and still nothing has happend, is this salvageable?
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#2 Posted : 1/23/2015 11:35:31 PM

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Was the caapi consumed previously (to know its strenght)?

If I were you I guess I'd stick it in the fridge and wait a day and see if anything crashes out, and try to filter through coffee filter.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/24/2015 1:08:36 AM

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Consumed it in a brew with p. viridis but didn't have a thermometer at the time and accidentally cooked the dmt. There was a drunkeness and upset stomach feeling though so I assumed the caapi worked.
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#4 Posted : 1/24/2015 1:24:17 PM

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Doesn't seem like much if anything at all settled. wondering if this solution is just not active and maybe didn't boil hard/long enough
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#5 Posted : 3/7/2015 5:14:55 PM

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can you substitute pickling lime for the Lye? in theory i'd assume you could but then again i'm really inexperienced with synthesis and extraction and am still learning.

hoping to start with food safe extractions as the chemicals are easier to work with and easier to obtain.
 
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#6 Posted : 3/8/2015 2:25:54 AM

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Just Say Know wrote:
can you substitute pickling lime for the Lye? in theory i'd assume you could but then again i'm really inexperienced with synthesis and extraction and am still learning.

hoping to start with food safe extractions as the chemicals are easier to work with and easier to obtain.


No.

Lime works with dryteks on cactus, dmt containing plant materials, and thats about it. It also works very good for freebasing impure dmt salts so you can pull with acetone or a np to get pure freebase dmt.

For the purpose of a aqueous caapi extraction, you need a base that will dissolve in the water. Caoh (lime) doesn't do that. Lye/koh (potash, potassium hydroxide) does and thats why its used.

And BTW, you can get food safe lye if you want, its used to make pretzels. But if you pay attention when your extracting, and aren't foolish you don't need food safe chemicals since you didn't bring over any contaminants into your end product.

Don't think you need food safe supplies/teks to get a safe to use product, if you don't want to work a little harder or think about the process more in depth, then yes, go food safe, but imho that's a copout for not learning how to properly and safely extract alkaloids and perform the teks described on this site.

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#7 Posted : 3/9/2015 12:54:21 AM

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The Day Tripper wrote:
Just Say Know wrote:
can you substitute pickling lime for the Lye? in theory i'd assume you could but then again i'm really inexperienced with synthesis and extraction and am still learning.

hoping to start with food safe extractions as the chemicals are easier to work with and easier to obtain.


No.

Lime works with dryteks on cactus, dmt containing plant materials, and thats about it. It also works very good for freebasing impure dmt salts so you can pull with acetone or a np to get pure freebase dmt.

For the purpose of a aqueous caapi extraction, you need a base that will dissolve in the water. Caoh (lime) doesn't do that. Lye/koh (potash, potassium hydroxide) does and thats why its used.

And BTW, you can get food safe lye if you want, its used to make pretzels. But if you pay attention when your extracting, and aren't foolish you don't need food safe chemicals since you didn't bring over any contaminants into your end product.

Don't think you need food safe supplies/teks to get a safe to use product, if you don't want to work a little harder or think about the process more in depth, then yes, go food safe, but imho that's a copout for not learning how to properly and safely extract alkaloids and perform the teks described on this site.



you have a really good point about expanding into other teks that are more complex; personally i just want to start with a food safe extraction because i've never worked with chemistry let alone a DMT extraction. i hope to learn as i go but i'm definitely starting with a food safe lime and vinegar Tek until i am more comfortable with going more complex.

do you have any advice for where to go after i've used a food safe extraction a few times? i've done some reading on the three different extraction teks but found Q21Q21's foodsafe tek easiest to understand. i think once i see how it's actually done i'll become more comfortable with something complex.
 
 
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