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z a b
#1 Posted : 2/24/2015 8:01:56 PM
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Hi there,

I am looking to have an Iboga session to treat the depersonalization disorder from which I have been suffering for the past 11 years. Was wondering whether anyone might have recommendations on Iboga providers and/or centers in Europe.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 

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#2 Posted : 2/24/2015 8:07:30 PM

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Did you look into the legal aspects of providing iboga sessions in the various european jurisdictions? In places where it is not legal, any providers who still do would not be pleased to see their name put out here for all of the internet (and law enforcement people) to see.
 
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Did OP ask for something else than legal thing ?
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#4 Posted : 2/24/2015 11:41:32 PM

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DansMaTete wrote:
Did OP ask for something else than legal thing ?

No, OP did not mention the legal aspect. The legal aspect is a reality with some relevance. Anyone responding should IMHO consider this before recommending anyone. If providers advertise services freely on the internet with a website, I assume that they would not object to being mentioned.
 
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#5 Posted : 2/25/2015 6:44:15 PM
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pitubo wrote:
Did you look into the legal aspects of providing iboga sessions in the various european jurisdictions? In places where it is not legal, any providers who still do would not be pleased to see their name put out here for all of the internet (and law enforcement people) to see.


I do not wish for anyone to advertise the details of Iboga providers who give services illegally and/or do not wish for their details to be distributed. I was referring to providers and centers such as those that advertise themselves openly on the Internet.
 
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#6 Posted : 2/25/2015 7:18:09 PM
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High Zab ,

Some questions ---- >

Where did you get the idea that iboga could help treating the depersonalization disorder please ?

Why / how do you think that it might help ?

Do you know what the effects of iboga are like ?

Have you any experience with hallucinogens ?
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#7 Posted : 2/26/2015 6:47:53 AM
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I would think it might be preferable to try Iboga first in small dosages, before going
to a full trip.
I myself suffer from depersonalization. I found small dosages have helped me(1-2 gr.).
I want to take my time with my process though, and not do things too quickly.
 
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#8 Posted : 2/27/2015 3:53:28 PM
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GOD wrote:
High Zab ,

Some questions ---- >

Where did you get the idea that iboga could help treating the depersonalization disorder please ?

Why / how do you think that it might help ?

Do you know what the effects of iboga are like ?

Have you any experience with hallucinogens ?

Hi, GOD. There is no known cure for DP, but there are many accounts of people suffering from the disorder who were cured with Iboga. Generally, DP is a state that the mind turns on and off. I am in no position to explain the mechanism of Iboga, but I believe it is able to turn off the DP state. I have never experienced Iboga myself, although I am about to begin microdosing.

jivangilad wrote:
I would think it might be preferable to try Iboga first in small dosages, before going
to a full trip.
I myself suffer from depersonalization. I found small dosages have helped me(1-2 gr.).
I want to take my time with my process though, and not do things too quickly.

As I wrote above, I am about to begin microdosing soon. As positive as the experience may be, I believe I would still need a flood dose eventually to be cured.
 
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#9 Posted : 2/27/2015 4:21:40 PM

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Don't expect any medicine to do it for you. At most, it will only help you do it. You have to make the lasting changes in life patterns.
 
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#10 Posted : 2/27/2015 5:26:55 PM

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Hey zab.

A few things to comment. First of all, if you check our attitude page, we do not talk about dry plant material providers, only seeds and live cuttings. As you may be aware, there is a big question regarding the sustainability of iboga, gabon has problem with poachers and it is essential that people start working towards spreading this plant, not just consuming.

Of course, this leaves many in a tough position, those people that can't grow in their areas but still may make use of the plant as a medicine. I sincerely hope you find someone trustable to help you with a session, or find a plant source, but I urge you to please ask questions regarding source of the plant material and sustainability, to try to find initiatives that go in that direction, or at the very least maybe consider donating to such initiatives that go into that direction like ICEERS or others that people here might now.

I wish you the best of luck in finding a help to your condition. I will lock this thread though, due to the reason I mentioned above. Feel free to start another thread regarding iboga if you don't ask for sources. Be well.
 
 
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