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bigtdotcom
#1 Posted : 2/22/2015 7:25:06 AM

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Hi Guys, I'm sure alot of you already know that getting Naptha here in Canada is not quiet as easy as some other parts of the world. The 2 main options we have, well at least where I live are Colemans camp fule and Ronsonal.

I would just like to know if anyone (especially if you are from Canada) has used both as Naptha and if either one was better then the other?

I have been using Ronsonal for my extractions and seems to be working fine....Yields are low but i'm pretty sure i have low quality bark Sad

I have done some research on this topic both here and around the net and keep getting conflicting answers???

It would be great if I could switch to Colmans because it come in a much larger tin and is way cheaper then the tiny plastic bottles of Ronsonal I have been using.

Sorry if this is a really basic question, im still pretty new to this and dont know enough about what makes good Naptha.

MSDS for Colmans http://www.coleman.com/u...pport/Safety/lantern.pdf

MSDS for Ronsonal
http://www.local510.org/...sheets/Ronsonol_MSDS.pdf

Thanks in advanced.
 

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OneStepBeyond
#2 Posted : 2/22/2015 7:31:47 AM

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Don't use the Coleman's fuel, it has nasty additives.

Check out "MSR Superfuel"

Available at SAIL and MEC stores.
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#3 Posted : 2/22/2015 7:46:04 AM

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Thanks for the fast response!
MSR Super fuel you say? is this what you use OneStepBeyond?

Might be hard finding it where I live....the only places around where I live are Canadian Tire and HomehardWare.

Ill have a look around online
 
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#4 Posted : 2/22/2015 8:04:18 AM

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bigtdotcom wrote:
Thanks for the fast response!
MSR Super fuel you say? is this what you use OneStepBeyond?

Might be hard finding it where I live....the only places around where I live are Canadian Tire and HomehardWare.

Ill have a look around online


If you click the link, you can "find in store" near your location.

I have used it. It's pure naphtha and it evaporates clean (unlike Coleman fuel).
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#5 Posted : 2/23/2015 12:02:14 AM

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Looking at the Coleman fuel MSDS, it says of the appearance, that it is a "clear, green, light hydrocarbon liquid".

Since, out of the "Cyclohexane, Nonane, Octane, Heptane, Pentane," mentioned as (being 100% of) the ingredients, all are colourless, the product must contain a green dye. What other undeclared additives are there in Coleman fuel?

Nice of them to remove the neurotoxic hexane, though!




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#6 Posted : 2/23/2015 12:23:16 AM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
Looking at the Coleman fuel MSDS, it says of the appearance, that it is a "clear, green, light hydrocarbon liquid".

Since, out of the "Cyclohexane, Nonane, Octane, Heptane, Pentane," mentioned as (being 100% of) the ingredients, all are colourless, the product must contain a green dye. What other undeclared additives are there in Coleman fuel?

Nice of them to remove the neurotoxic hexane, though!


There may be a rust inhibitor causing the green coloration that is not listed on the msds.

you may be able to call them & get the info out of them.
 
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#7 Posted : 2/23/2015 12:46:02 AM

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Looking at the boiling points, that would fractionally distil fairly well:
Nonane 150.4 °C
Octane 125.1 °C
Heptane 98.1 to 98.7 °C
Cyclohexane 80.74 °C
Pentane 35.9 °C

But that's far from basic (although rather simple).




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