due to the nature of the things discussed here i don't think personal emails are a good idea.
I will say, however, that if it comes down to your bark being bad, it may be down to season the bark was harvested in. If that is the case, the bark from the same season may be working it's way around & will likely have the same results for handfuls of others.

Hi concombres,

Like some said, every plant is different. Freezing/thawing is a good way to make those cell walls burst. Or boiling. Preparation is needed in some cases. There are so many different variables ya know. I am going to perform a clean up on my remaining naphtha from the first extraction. Hopefully i will get some spice, because it does look like there is particles stuck in the naphtha. I will also complete EW's tek with the remaining powder I have, and replace his initial heat bath with an acid boil. I want to go over every detail, before i conclude my bark is of low quality. As for what you said, I hope that is not the case, or we may just have to find another replacement for ACRB. Just so many different variables! It's a trial of process and error, friend. Thanks for the input!

Yeah it most deffinately is a trial & error thing
I've had mixed results with acacia in the past.
It can be very difficult about releasing the goods.
It's been quite a while since i've made an attempt using it because it had given me trouble but i've had much more extraction experience since then.

Soon i should be moving back into using acacia as a source though, & i have a good idea where i've went wrong in the past

Yeah it most deffinately is a trial & error thing
I've had mixed results with acacia in the past.
It can be very difficult about releasing the goods.
It's been quite a while since i've made an attempt using it because it had given me trouble but i've had much more extraction experience since then.

Soon i should be moving back into using acacia as a source though, & i have a good idea where i've went wrong in the past


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This was my first extraction ever. I knew i would probably run into issues, but this is the chance i took because MHRB is unattainable. I've dedicated myself to perfecting this procedure! Obtaining crystals from ACRB, that is. This will also provide good experience. I would love to know how your extractions go What tek are you leaning towards using? I didn't really freeze or thaw the powder thoroughly before the first extraction, so i'm hoping that freezing/thawing efficiently will have an effect on the yield. I still have not decided if i will do the acid boil, or do the mini a/b that is used in the tek I will follow. Practice makes perfect. I should invest into some pH strips or a meter, instead of assuming it's the correct pH. I will get these 100g extractions down before moving into bigger ones.

I wouldn't say mhrb is unobtainable, but it has gone sky high in price if your not willing to take extra risk if you catch my drift & acacia is far more practical in that sense.

with mhrb i've been following cybs tek pretty much to the letter & cleaning up from there. I'm partial to limo as a solvent & multiple fumarate conversions after trying it once but it's a bit more in depth than a normal extraction with naphtha.
I actually enjoy the process alot

With acacia though, i was just doing full a/b with freeze thaws, didn't try cybs tek because there were not many going that route with acacia yet when i was using it.
I've planned ahead for when my mhrb is gone & stashed some acacia.
It may be some time before i get around to using it though.

as for freezing & thawing, with acacia being such a hard bark (when it's whole it is much harder than mhrb, if you look at the conditions the trees grow in it's no wonder!) It's best to process the bark in as many ways as possible to fully break it down & release the spice (ex. Freeze thaws, heat, acid, base soak, etc.).

I'd personally start with everything & get a method working fine, then every so often remove one variable from the process (like the freeze thaw, or long basic soak) to see how it effects yeilds. This would effectively show you wich steps are neccessary & which are overkill with less waste.
This seems to be very close to what your doing already

You may also want to scale back to 50g extractions. Smaller extractions are more efficient in terms of figuring out a good method, less wasted in the event something goes wrong.

I'd deffinately reccommend a good ph meter. I don't use one, but i've been meaning to get one for a long time now. They are very versatile tools & can be used for much more than just extraction.

Yesterday i did my second extraction with the rest of the powder. I froze the powder and thawed it multiple times over the span of a week. With my first extraction using Cyb's i yielded close to nothing, it was goo at that. So i figured the powder was low quality. This extraction i used EW's tek which is cyb's tek with an clean up at the end. And wow, wow! Can i say i was wrong with my first accusation. I yielded at least a gram(from 100g of ACRB) of white fluffy goodness! Night and day difference. My second extraction ever and i'm yielding white fluffy goodness. I knew the researching would pay off! Kudos to Cyb's tek, and EW's easy to follow instructions

Good to hear you got everything working growth!
I'm sure you'll get quite a few good experinces with that first gram