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#1 Posted : 2/9/2015 9:11:26 AM

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I'm not sure if there is already a place on this forum to discuss this kind of thing but has anyone considered re-vegetating locations or just simply planting species back into the wild to;

1. prevent irresponsible damage done to wild plants by some dmt-seekers.

2. Keep a sustainable abundance of these trees.

3. Keep environmental order in check.Love

Now I know many may think this is irresponsible particularly with Acacias being weeds in many regions of the world but I think with someone guiding people to keep various species to there respected locations and not excessively planting it can be maintained.

I personally live in Western Australia and have heard many reports of the A. acuminata around York just outside of Perth being ravaged by people for their spice. This would be an example; we could buy seedlings (plenty of vendors in Perth) and re-distribute them around York. Atlas of Living Australia has quite well documented historical records of species distribution in Australia - this could be used to see were these Acacias use to grow via satellite imagery some 20 odd years back and locations that are declining would be the ideal spot to re-vegetate these species.

Just an Idea - bit of a horticulture type project. Im sure this kind of thing would also remove some stigma from sites like the nexus, showing people that people like us respect the environment.
 

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#2 Posted : 2/9/2015 4:40:53 PM
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I think that its a very good idea . Well done . Hopefully you get a lot of help and others do it where they live . Giveing something back instead of just egoisticly takeing .

I think that we should also be doing this with other plants and fungi . I've been doing it for years with cannabis , morning glory and Psilocybe Cyamescens .
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#3 Posted : 2/9/2015 5:37:11 PM

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planning on planting out acacia acuminatas here in the PNW in random areas. They seem to do okay here.
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#4 Posted : 2/9/2015 9:49:37 PM
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I live in Florida.

Acacias can be a real invasive nuisance here. A. auriculiformis is currently one of our worst weeds in the southern part of the peninsula.

They are a major problem in South Africa as well. Re-planting native species would be a great idea, or growing some in your yard. Planting non-native species in wild areas, however, is totally irresponsible and can end up being a pretty dick thing to do, especially if the original intent behind the idea was somehow helping the planet.
 
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#5 Posted : 2/9/2015 10:35:01 PM
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Good reminder = Be carefull .

On the other side a defence of the undefencable ? ---- >


Whats a weed ? Whats a nusance ? To who ? Why ? The world in a straight jacket ? All the plants standing to attention ? Where do the tulips in holand come from ? Cannabis ? The cacti in africa ? Tomatos ? Maize ? Rice ? Potatoes ? Coca plants ? Opium poppys ? Things change .

Maybe the only reason that we are here is because of drastic change . Species being wiped out = Something happened to massively change the planet and that resulted in the extinction of lots of species . That made way for old and new lines to develop . Lines like ours .

Do we want to live in an english garden for the rest of time ? Where every blade of grass , every bush , every tree stands to attention ?


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#6 Posted : 2/9/2015 11:50:28 PM
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jamie wrote:
planning on planting out acacia acuminatas here in the PNW in random areas. They seem to do okay here.


They arent killed by the frost? I a few growing but idk where to plant them long term. Im near seattle.
 
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#7 Posted : 2/10/2015 1:54:39 AM

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GOD wrote:
Good reminder = Be carefull .


Whats a weed ? Whats a nusance ? To who ? Why ? The world in a straight jacket ? All the plants standing to attention ? Where do the tulips in holand come from ? Cannabis ? The cacti in africa ? Tomatos ? Maize ? Rice ? Potatoes ? Coca plants ? Opium poppys ? Things change .




If you plant a weedy acacia in an area that rapdily grows and disrupts the ecology in the area it could potentially wipe out many of the animal/plants that live there. This is the only issue with a project like this is that people have little understanding of Biology and ecology.

GOD wrote:

I've been doing it for years with cannabis , morning glory and Psilocybe Cyamescens .


Morning glory can be very invasive so be careful.

I think it would also be a good way for communities like ours to collaborate not just over drugs but the environment. Maybe we could start getting some experts on specific regions in the globe to coordinate people with what to plant where etc. without getting to out of control

If anything its best to keep keep possibly invasive species within urban landscapes that will probably get cut down by council if it gets out of control.
 
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#8 Posted : 2/10/2015 1:55:45 AM

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jamie wrote:
planning on planting out acacia acuminatas here in the PNW in random areas. They seem to do okay here.


They can grow quite rapidly and invasive here in Australia so be wary. They do tolerate frost/salt conditions they are a hardy species.
 
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#9 Posted : 2/10/2015 4:55:10 AM

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I think you would have to do a proper survey as you said yourself it can have heavy consequences for local wildlife however I see no reason not to keep an established populations numbers sustained.
 
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#10 Posted : 2/10/2015 5:43:49 AM

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Yes it is something that basic biology/ecology knowledge would be needed to successfully do, but that's what we at the nexus love right - sharing knowledge teaching each other etc.
 
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#11 Posted : 2/10/2015 7:40:08 AM
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Sharps wrote:
jamie wrote:
planning on planting out acacia acuminatas here in the PNW in random areas. They seem to do okay here.


They can grow quite rapidly and invasive here in Australia so be wary. They do tolerate frost/salt conditions they are a hardy species.



How deep of a frost can they tolerate? What about floribundas?
 
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#12 Posted : 2/10/2015 7:53:58 AM

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a.floribuna can tolerate down to around-6 I believe not sure about acuminata there is more info here ..

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=38229
 
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#13 Posted : 2/13/2015 11:58:30 PM
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THanks.

Theres really only one small spot on the oregon coast in the entire PNW that is zone 9b, which would be safe for that. But even then that is the average annual min, any outlying year in the tree's life could kill it. :\
 
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#14 Posted : 2/14/2015 5:43:04 PM

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I have acacia acuminata outside right now mid February in Vancouver, BC..It's doing fine. It's been around 12-13C lately, but they have tolerated frosts. We have had almost no frost all year as well as almost no snow at all. This whole winter has been like spring conditions.

They are in pots, if a cold front was to come where temps really got low for a day or so I would bring them inside briefly.
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