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greenmoss
#1 Posted : 2/2/2015 8:42:42 PM

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Hi,

May I please ask is some experiences of DMT what you may call a more real reality than the reality/life we are living?. As in, there is in fact creatures so advanced beyond what we can even think of, and they live in their own reality... Is this possible?.


And if it is so, what's the name of it (DMT related), and could it be possible to go there every day just like we do dream every night?.


Thanks.
 

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Dead man
#2 Posted : 2/2/2015 9:20:51 PM

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greenmoss wrote:
Hi,

May I please ask is some experiences of DMT what you may call a more real reality than the reality/life we are living?. As in, there is in fact creatures so advanced beyond what we can even think of, and they live in their own reality... Is this possible?.


And if it is so, what's the name of it (DMT related), and could it be possible to go there every day just like we do dream every night?.


Thanks.

If you are on dmt hyperspace can seem much more "real" than every day reality with brighter colors/colors you might not be able to see otherwise, unexplainable geometries, strange noises, telepathy with other beings etc. But just because it is perceived as more real doesn't mean it is, as of course as you are high on a drug. Many psychonauts argue that the brains main function is to filter and limit input from around us to a point where we are able to hunt/find water etc. (Initially proposed by Huxley I believe), when we take psychedelics these filters (or closed "doors"Pleased are opened and we perceive reality as it really is. Modern research seems to support this as studies on psilocybin show decreased brain activity when psilocybin is ingested. But the true answer is that we don't really know. It is of course totally possible that there are beings living on higher vibrations and that we are able to sense, see and even able to communicate with them when on DMT, but it is just as likely that it is just parts of our unconscious. It definitely a very interesting discussion and the main reason people join the nexus I suppose.

Terence Mckenna first termed the term "hyperspace" which many still use, but others like Patrick Lundborg have suggested terms like "innerspace" suggesting it is a realm within us.

Whether an parallel/higher reality or a manifestation of the mind it is important to realise that it is not a reality you are able to access on a continuous basis, and that at the end of the day earth reality is the most important of all (at least until you die anyways). DMT is best use to enchance your experience of this reality through personal insight, understanding, joy, and decreasing the fear of death (and truely living). It is not a viable alternative realm to live in or will provide answers to the universe. If you are trying to achieve the latter you will just have a very hard time trust me, the universe is not designed in a way to be solvable (not by us in this point of time anyways) Wink.
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Dead man
#3 Posted : 2/2/2015 9:32:12 PM

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greenmoss wrote:
As in, there is in fact creatures so advanced beyond what we can even think of, and they live in their own reality... Is this possible?.


This is not only possible it is very highly likely, just like a worm can't sense our reality there are higher beings we cannot sense. We can but see a fraction of the light spectrum, and sense but a fraction of sound. There are likely forces we can't even fanthom. We are infinitely large and infinitely small.
The big question of course is of course if we can communicate with these beings through dmt/and or enlightenment.
He who sees the infinite in all things sees God. He who sees the ratio only sees himself only. -William Blake There is no natural religion.
People in the past never lived in ecological balance with nature, they died in ecological balance with nature -Hans Rosling
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Aislin_the_Dreamer
#4 Posted : 2/11/2015 6:25:03 AM

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Unfortunately, I have yet to properly experience Spice so I am going off my own views and interpretations rather than experience.

A few movies come to mind:

Inception - the scene where everyone leads their "real lives" within their dreams. They lay in beds as others take care of their physical forms. In this case it seems that they are trying to escape their reality and create a new one. I suppose their dreams are their new reality but that can be left up to the person's point of view. However, I would agree with Dead man on all points on this one, especially with how little we know given we can only perceive light and sound on such a small scale. Even if you perceive your dreams/DMT experiences as the "true" reality, there is still your physical form you experience while reading our replies. To abandon this physical form for another reality, "real" or otherwise, then you are not experiencing all that the universe has to offer and are escaping as the people mentioned previously.

Men In Black - Aliens playing marbles filled with galaxies, one of which we reside in. Enough said.

Waking Life - I have a whole slew of theories concerning dreams, reality, and a universal consciousness/other realities, some of which have been reinforced/ignored/questioned by this movie (which I recommend).

I'm surprised at my movie recall honestly. Also, here's a topic posted by Entropymancer that I stumbled upon a while back:
A pragmatic approach: What is "real", and when is it actually useful to ask this?
Aislin is a fictional character in the book called "Life." Aislin's "dreams" are fictitious experiences meant to explore theoretical concepts.
Aislin may switch between third and first person point of view. Aislin apologizes for any confusion this may cause.

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The spice expands consciousness.
The spice is vital to space travel.
 
Sayaq
#5 Posted : 2/11/2015 6:35:03 PM

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In addition to "Hyperspace", some people have speculated that another name for the space we enter on DMT could be "Bardo", the Tibetan Buddhist name for intermediate phases, in this case the stage between death of this life and the next rebirth.

Here's an article about Tibetan Buddhist views raised in the movie Enter the Void

http://www.tricycle.com/...ad-dmt-and-entering-void
 
 
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