Hello all,

I recently had an idea: why not try to compile as much of the information held by this forum (and it's members) in some sort of "encyclopedia"? It would be beneficial to the forum (by possibly cutting down on the number of posts and increasing the "quality" of any future ones) and to any less experienced psychonauts, would it not? The forum is obviously very useful, but much of it's information is harder to find (in other words, it's not the best search engine). Also, for any newcomers asking questions, it's also very useful, but it's sometimes the lack of knowledge behind the question, not the question itself, that needs to be addressed (which an encyclopedia might accomplish).

This may be a stupid idea, or unnecessary for any number of reasons I haven't considered (perhaps there's already a DMT encyclopedia?). Nevertheless, in the case that you agree that this would be useful/interesting/beneficial, my plan would be for you to simply post any and as much quality information that you have on this post, or a link to such information. If this really "catches on" and I'm not alone in thinking this a good idea, I could make this into a PDF and then post it separately.

If you are interested in posting something, please do so, but keep in mind that you are agreeing to whatever information you post being included on the possible PDF, and that I fully plan on acknowledging your contribution in the PDF (unless you specifically state that you wish otherwise).

I don't need information related to the extraction freebase DMT (many high quality PDFs already exist dealing with this). What would be good to have (open to suggestions):

1. Effects per dosage for all forms of DMT, given you own "resistance" to psychedelics, that resistance measured on a scale from 1-5, 1 meaning you require 1/4 the quantity of a substance as does a "normal" person (for equal effects), 3 being "normal", and 5 requiring 4x the amount needed by a "normal" person
2. Concentration of psychoactives in various plant species (Mimosa, Banisteriopsis, Psilocybe, etc.), according to your personal experiences.
3. Failed brewing techniques for Ayahuasca

Don't think that this would lead to anyone getting in trouble, legally or with the forum, but if yes, say so!

Thanks for any and all input/feedback!

Saddened by the lack of feedback...

Good idea BUT maybe you got no reply because they already exist .

For instance here on this site ---- > https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Main_Page

AND ........ there is a book called " The encyclopaedea of psychedelic drugs " By Peter Stafford .

I didn't see any kind of "effects per dosage" on the main page. The difference between this "encyclopedia" and other informative articles, is that this relies on everyone giving THEIR own information, instead of one person looking and gathering info.

How about this one? https://www.erowid.org/general/big_chart.shtml

" I didn't see any kind of "effects per dosage" on the main page. "

That sentance disturbs me . Effects per dosage depend on ...... the dosaqge . The person . Their sex . The set and setting . AND ...... MUST that information be on the main page ? For people that cant be bothered to do some reading ? Some research ? What would be the point in someone who has no patience reading something that he doesnt understand and very probably cant realy use because he doesnt have full information ? Perhaps the information given is given wraped together to try to stop polytoxic kamikazis just reading the dose advice and then takeing to much for them ? Teach a person to drive by showing him the acelerator but dont show him the safety belt or brakes ?

" The difference between this "encyclopedia" and other informative articles, is that this relies on everyone giving THEIR own information, instead of one person looking and gathering info. "

The three sorces that you have been pointed at contain the info you want and non of them is information just from one person . The info there comes from experts or expert sources . You seem to me to be talking about user recomendations ? If you are you are on the wrong path . We are in the internet and a large part of the " infomation " in it is subjective W.S. from morons , idiots and trolls ..... or just plain lies .

If i told you the doses that i have taken i would be banned from this forum . And what point would there be in that for you ? That you try to do the same doses as me or others ? Have you read DMTurner ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Turner - https://www.erowid.org/l..._psychedelic_guide.shtml To be honest the guy was a maniac and later payed the price for it .

A book like that would be of less than no value because it would be hearsay from anonymous sources and open to false information .

That's a bit harsh, I think. None of us knows how we will end up...

Anyway, PH0Man, unfortunately, for the time being, not everything exists in a database. But it's great that you've got some PDF software you're itching to use, and good luck with your webtrepeneur adventures!

Best

Chan

What exactly do you have issue with? That people could a have a compilation of a variety of experience, with resistance taken into account? I hardly think this would be dangerous, unless you were to misuse the info.

Well, I guess that's pretty much a gigantic version of what I had in mind.

PH0Man

When you edit a post especialy as much as you have edited your first post you make the answers from people who answered the first post look at least out of place .

You use the word encyclopaedea and then talk about a book of anonymous subjective storys = A fantasy book . An encyclopaedea is a serious book with facts and information in it to help educate people .


" That's a bit harsh, I think. "

If i remeber right he died in a swimming pool because he was iresponsible and had taken ketamine with no sitter ?

Spell-checkers are free, and I think it was a bath-tub. He was not inexperienced with ketamine, or much else come to that. Do you always have a sitter?

Compassion was what the original GOD was all about IIRC.

No need for the combative tone fellows

PH0Man, as posted before, that's the point of the wiki. If you feel more can be done to the wiki, feel free to add it.

For example in the wiki front page, you can click DMT, and in the DMT wiki you can find a section on methods of ingestion and dosage (and tons of other things). If there are other substances for which this information is not there, or important updates, or any other info you think is missing anyone can do it, like yourself

Also a lot of information is in (or linked in) the FAQ, such as the dosage information too.

Not a bad idea Phoman. Like others have said, it more or less exists.

And, for DMT and Ayahuasca especially, dosage seems to vary from person to person even more so than other substances. But it's still possible to generalize a range.

Mainly I'm posting to recommend PiHKAL and TiHKAL. They're the first books that come to mind when discussing dosage effects.

I don't think they include ayahuasca (just synthesized substances) but should say something about DMT.

Have a nice day.

Just for the record DMTurner was a highly intelligent, complex person admirable in many ways. His sense of curiosity (and courage!) has enriched anyone familiar with his works, and got him into trouble as well. The man was a true pioneer in our field, exploring areas others feared to tread. There is value in what he had to say. To take such a dismissive tone when discussing him does us all a disservice.

1. I apologise for my combative tone.
2. I never edited my first post.
3. A collection of subjective stories isn't a "fantasy book", it's a collection of subjective stories, but you're right, calling in an encyclopedia is inaccurate.
4. Since you probably have a far greater knowledge than I about everything relating to psychedelic, it would seem rather unfair to quote something I said as "disturbing". What I say is ignorant, but disturbing seems a bit harsh.

I think it's an issue of formatting. The wiki, erowid etc all require you to be looking for something in particular, it's not exactly a page turner where you could just knowledge bomb yourself. I agree it would be sweet if we could have all the information compiled like a book that you would actually want to pick up and read through.

Exactly what I was going for: knowledge bomb, for newcomers. Thank you!

" I apologise for my combative tone. "

I think that that comment wasnt aimed at you . I took it to be to help avoid a possible argument about my comment that D.M.Turner was iresponsible ...... wich was missunderstood as me saying that everyone who takes drugs should have a sitter or everyone who takes ketamine should have a sitter . I didnt say either of those things . The guy drowned . If he had had a sitter there is a big chance that that wouldnt have happened . The fact that he died like he did showed that he had overestimated himself . The fact that he died in the way he did proved that he was iresponsible in that he didnt have a sitter .


Back to the book ......... Not tying to shoot you or it down .......... BUT ...... i still dont understand what the benefit should be ? Anonmymous people makeing claims about what doses they take ? Some people take homeopathetic doses , the herd takes what shulgin took and others take thumb prints of LSD . Some smoke a gramm of crap cannabis a month others put a gramm in every joint . Of what practicle use is that information ?

I think Orion said it best: a page tutner, just knowledge bomb yourself.

OK . Thanks . Hope you have fun .