Hey everybody!

So I know that Keeper Trout did some tests on Gleditsia roots(Some Simple Tryptamines) and showed to contain DMT, but i am curious if anyone has any knowledge about Gleditsia seed pods and what they might contain. I have an almost unlimited supply of Honey Locust sees pods and was wondering if its worth checking out and doing some extractions to try and pull out any magic. So what are your thoughts or input? Any and all would be greatly appreciated!

Some Simple Tryptamines, pg. 31:


Rather interesting...

Has no other tests been done since this? I can't seem to find any real information about further studies being done on Gleditsia. I find it rather exciting! Might hold some real potential. Does anyone know about any further reports or info on this species?

Seems like it might definitely be worth checking out... but obviously without hurting the tree itself. I am focusing on the seed pods alone.

Sharp eye there EO! I thought no one else had ever noticed that, glad you have picked up the torch. I am unaware of any chemical analysis of the plant other than Trout, and I think it's important that we follow up on the pointer he has given us. So yes please do some work on those seedpods and let us know what you find. This is potentially a very interesting species.

Haven't found anything really positive, but I located these.

Would be cool if it had DMT though, lots of G. triacanthos here.

Thanks man, its seems to be a door yet to be opened! And right though!? I think it'll be a very interesting endeavour. I have more than I know what to do with so plenty to play with and try different things. I will definitely be posting results these experiments.

I have so many seed pods....



For whatever reason I unfortunately cannot the film you posted..


Same though, the grow father abundant around here... along with plenty of Elaeagnus angustifolia, which introduces some very intriguing ideas... could possibly be a locally homegrown anahuasca brew.
High hopes? ..maybe... but what a thrill it would be to discover a beautifully local and harmless source.

I know it's offtopic but has anyone experimented with the trunk bark or interested in it? I've sampled some trunk bark since it's dangerous for the plant to cut its roots. I wonder what it will come out of it.

Accualy, I harvested some trunk bark from a honey locust in the spring. I noticed that in trouts notes as well. I went back to check on the tree a month later and it had dropped a lot of leaves, then about a month ago I checked on it again and it was full of leaves again. For a while I thought I really injured the tree, I felt pretty bad about that. I'm glad it's healthy again now. I love honey locust trees. I have two of them growing from seeds I collected in the woods.

I've yet to use it yet though.

Probly the best thing is to harvest only a small amount per tree. Hopefully the stem bark is active.

It has a layer of very red material just under the outer bark.

To the original question, I have no idea what entheogenic substances the pods contain, but they do contain an edible sweet pulp.

Quite the beautiful and useful tree! The pulp was used by Native Americans to reap of its flavorful taste and would make beer with it.

Pharmacological activities


Jus my 2 cents!

I've found some information about the chemical composition in the pods, but it didn't seem to contain anything interesting.

http://www.scientific-pu...002/1401701849442581.pdf

I suppose I'll add a small amount of the bark I have to my next brew. Perhaps honey locust can teach me something.
Perhaps a mimosa type STB TEK could yield something smokable.

Dmt really is everywhere. I'm of the opinion that it's widespread in temperate trees and plants, if we just explore for it. For example Acer spp. seem promising to me.

I believe in the same. Probably there are a lot more plants containing DMT, but no one has researched them thoroughly.

I'm glad you created this thread, it's renewed my interest in the friendly honey locust tree.

Interestingly, I read a theory that honey locust was once pollinated by a large mammal that has since gone extinct. The theory stated that that's the reason for the sweet pulp in the pods. Can't remember where I read that. Either way it doesn't seem to have any issues reproducing, as I see scores of seedlings and saplings each time I go into the woods.

as a landscape gardener, I have been watching these trees for a while...I see them from time to time...

I think this year it will be time for extraction..and possible seed bombing.

these are a weed in my area, very invasive. I wouldn't seed bomb. During winter, they break apart. Fall over and cause damage. Plus once there established on your property, you'll be spending a few hours pulling up all the insane roots the shoot off.

but if theres magic, I might find a soft spot for them, I have spent many hours butchering theses plants