I'm wondering if I should try quidding rehydrated plain Salvia leaf. I never had a problem smoking plain leaf, in regards to anxiety or fear, just wondering if quidding rehydrated plain leaf is worth doing, or if I should wait until I get my own Salvia plant and just quid the fresh leaves. Also what is a good dosage for quidding plain Salvia leaf in grams? I get mild Salvia effects from just a small bowl of plain Salvia smoked (0.1 grams), so I believe due to reverse tolerance that I am fairly sensitive to Salvia.

There is no difference in potency in quiding fresh vs rehydrated leaf. I can imagine it being quite difficult quiding shredded leaf though if you don't have whole leafs available.

Okay thanks for the answer! I had heard previously in another forum that some components of fresh leaf are degraded when dried. That must have just been speculation. Most of the leaves aren't whole but I'll still try and roll them into a ball after soaking for a bit. Any ideas on dosage for an almost breakthrough dose to low breakthrough dose?

Just a quote from Salvia and Salvorin A p31-32, availible for free here



Forgot to add earlier the dose is usually 2-8 grams of dried leaf.
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Thanks Dead man! I'll do some reading on the link you sent me. I might try 4-5 grams tonight and if I'm not where I'd like to be I'll smoke some plain leaf on top.

Don't do it!

I did, at a similar point to where you are now I guess, and it was ineffective and not especially pleasant, using rehydrated shredded leaves. It was quite a lot of bitty herb material, like wet oregano, that really started to irritate my mouth/stick in my teeth.

If you can get 95% ethanol, mix your desired dose with a shot of warm EtOH. Strain, add 2x same measure of hot water, and a dash of honey.

It's like warm mouthwash, which is better than it probably sounds, and works very well. Dragged off into the cosmic bushes in around 5 minutes.

I do not have access to 95% ethanol right now, but basically what you are doing is making a tincture correct? I will certainly try that out as I want to do an extraction of Calea Zacatechichi soon and it also uses 95% ethanol. The worst thing that would happen if I continued and tried to do the quid is that it would taste very awful? I'm not going in expecting much, in terms of taste and effects, but I still might try to do it to know what the experience is like. Worse comes to worse I just spit it out and waste some material?

Yes, it is very possible. You don't even have to hydrate the leaves. Sure, it is rather crunchy for the first minute or so, but then no more. Like man from chan chan said, it is not the most pleasant thing to do, but not that horrible in my opinion.

I don't quite remember my dosage, but i believe it was 2x2g in 15 minute intervals. After 15 minutes, spit and repeat. Your mileage may vary of course, espeically if you are very sensitive. Perhaps start with 2g and see where it takes you.

I'm not experienced when it comes to Salvia Divinorum, so i can't tell you what level you can achieve with that kind of dosage. Let me just say, it involved traveling through some sort of underground caverns, through my respiratory system, meeting the dead, talking with childish little white beings and losing a fight to a gigantic master being who would teach me a lesson. Oh and plenty of wheeling, spiraling, turning into dripping playdo ...

Lasted around 30 minutes

Yep. It's that easy, so long as you use high proof liquor, and then dilute it just prior to use. That's important, 95% will strip your mouth and burn painfully!

I've come a long way with salvia, and tincture is by far my favourite method. You can slip into the experience much more easily when you don't have to worry about holding and ejecting quids...!

Dosage. My tincture is "standardized" and the equivalent of 3-4mg of salvinorin-A is sufficient for light effects. This equates to 1-2g dried plain leaf, depending on quality.

Pre-dosing with harmalas helps smooth the experience too.

Have you tried a stronger dilution? For comfort, it might be ideal to be able to use only a few drops out of a tincture bottle with a shotglass of water. But perhaps the alcohol aids in absorbtion.

Another method which was quite popular on a german salvia forum (while it was still legal in germany), was to make a xylitol based candy, using tincture as a potent "flavour". Making candy seems like a neat idea, but just gargling for a minute with a psychedelic mouthwash seems even easier. The only thing i dislike is the idea of consuming too much alcohol.

Great description of your Salvia experience! Haha Sounds like you have a very good ability to recall your trip. Last deep experience had me riding the wave of a whip of some celestial being and a bunch of other things that I have sense forgotten!

Thanks for both of your responses Man from Chan Chan and obliguhl. I'll try both of your methods out! The cosmic mouthwash does seem like a really pleasant way to go!