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Growth&Unity
#1 Posted : 1/24/2015 10:54:14 PM

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I wanted to try my first extraction, and after looking at countless teks for ACRB, i found a simple and easy video. Here is a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CQylNPtruQ
It is an A/B extraction. He does something with the vinegar i have never read about. He mixes the ACRB powder with water and vinegar, but never heating. He then lets sit for about a half hour. A foam forms on the top, he then scoops this foam and discards it. I assume that is all the bad plant stuff you don't need(i'm guessing that's what makes ACRB final product into gooey stuff). Then he dissolves salt in water, adds that to the solution. Then proceeds to add lye, than naphtha, one after the other. He then pulls the naphtha and freezes it, coming out with pure white looking crystals. Shimmering White. Here is the video he posted after the 12-hour freeze precipitation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTLDJH6JIF8. I was just looking for people's opinion on this tek, because i have not seemed to have read any like it. All inputs would be appreciated, thanks guys!
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OneStepBeyond
#2 Posted : 1/25/2015 2:40:22 AM

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It sounds pretty much like cyb's tek

Maybe some of the details are a little different but its the same pretty standard A/B process. It should do the job.

You don't have to heat the acid solution, but I think it works better if you do. The foam thing is just a bit of a defat step.
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Growth&Unity
#3 Posted : 1/25/2015 3:17:18 AM

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Thank you for the reply! So overall do you think it is a good tek? And what would be the difference between heating and not heating? Yield more end product? He told me he still could get pure crystals if he didn't defat it(scoop all that plat material out). So I don't really understand what is accomplished. I'm just trying to understand a little bit more about ACRB extractions, because it is different from the easier Mimosa STB extractions. I don't want the end product being gooey like others. I also want to make sure the dmt will separate from the naphtha during freezing, because it seemed some people had issues there as well. He also only does one pull with naphtha. Would it be safe to use more and pull 4 times, like cyb's tek?
 
Earthwalker
#4 Posted : 1/25/2015 3:19:10 AM

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Growth&Unity wrote:
was just looking for people's opinion on this tek, because i have not seemed to have read any like it. All inputs would be appreciated, thanks guys!
-Growth&Unity

It shows as you're only here to promote this clip , if you reed anything about extracting this is one of the most used teks out there , certainly nothing new except creating an you're own emulsion of the bat Stop
 
Growth&Unity
#5 Posted : 1/25/2015 3:28:28 AM

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Earthwalker wrote:
[quote=Growth&Unity] was just looking for people's opinion on this tek, because i have not seemed to have read any like it. All inputs would be appreciated, thanks guys!
-Growth&Unity

It shows as you're only here to promote this clip , if you reed anything about extracting this is one of the most used teks out there , certainly nothing new except creating an you're own emulsion of the bat :!

I was trying to give the impression that it is different, so someone would notice and give me advice as soon as possible, because i have all the things that i need to perform the extraction. And i wanted to make sure it was a plausible tek, because it skips the heating process. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
OneStepBeyond
#6 Posted : 1/25/2015 3:52:48 AM

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Its not that hard to make a heat bath.

Bucket + hot tap water
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Spiralout
#7 Posted : 1/25/2015 4:32:58 AM

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You were trying to give the impression that it is different? What does that mean?

If you did your research you would see that all you need to know is within this forum. I could hold your hand and walk you through it and so could plenty of other members but the information is already there. Read cybs max ion tek.


Why don't you want to heat it; is that really to much effort? I have no idea what scooping out that foam would do but you could do an actual defat by adding naptha to the solution BEFORE adding the base, stirring and then pulling out the naptha which will have gotten out some of the oils. If you want to get out all the oils/fat you should do this a few times.

The goo is due to the presence of nmt, aside from the possible oils you may have. One pull would be a good way to waste some bark. Why not do some more research and try to get a better understanding of what this process involves and why it works?

Also, putting videos about this stuff on youtube is ridiculous and immature. Just saying. I'm plenty ridiculous and immature but I try to keep it to myself Razz

Good luck buddy Neutral
 
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#8 Posted : 1/25/2015 4:43:54 AM

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I agree, they need to get rid of the YouTube video's, nothing but bad vibes about them being on there. As for OP, just like everyone is explaining to you, research, research, then go back and research again.Thumbs up
 
Earthwalker
#9 Posted : 1/25/2015 8:03:42 AM

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I should've been more positive and said maybe instead of looking on YouTube for the easiest looking teks you should actually try reading a few posts , even asking for guidence in a introduction essay which should've been post number one , also maybe you should've researched all the differences and the inns and outs and pro's and cons before buying dangerous precursor chemicals . As Spaced Out 2 said research research research is key and one of the most utilised and encouraged things taught here at the nexus , good luck may you fins what you're " searching " for Thumbs up
 
Growth&Unity
#10 Posted : 1/25/2015 8:19:36 AM

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EW, thank you for the more "positive" feedback. I did not just buy everything on a whim. I have been researching, and researching, and researching for the past few months. I guess my words made it seem as if i had no idea what it was that i am about to get into. Maybe i should have posted a thread explaining that tek's "pre-defatting" process, and followed it up with the question as to why he is scooping the foam and discarding it. That's honestly all i really wanted to know. As you can see, i'm not just jumping into it hoping for the best. I'm sitting on the ingredients, and making sure that I know what it is EXACTLY that I'm doing. I especially do not want to take any shortcuts. It seems to me the more effort you put forth, the more rewards that can be reaped. I appreciate your follow up post, because the first one felt sort of sour. Maybe it just agitates you when someone is slaughtering your craft, but i assure you this i will not. Happy Traveling Smile
 
Earthwalker
#11 Posted : 1/25/2015 8:38:46 AM

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Growth&Unity wrote:
EW, thank you for the more "positive" feedback. I did not just buy everything on a whim. I have been researching, and researching, and researching for the past few months. I guess my words made it seem as if i had no idea what it was that i am about to get into. Maybe i should have posted a thread explaining that tek's "pre-defatting" process, and followed it up with the question as to why he is scooping the foam and discarding it. That's honestly all i really wanted to know. As you can see, i'm not just jumping into it hoping for the best. I'm sitting on the ingredients, and making sure that I know what it is EXACTLY that I'm doing. I especially do not want to take any shortcuts. It seems to me the more effort you put forth, the more rewards that can be reaped. I appreciate your follow up post, because the first one felt sort of sour. Maybe it just agitates you when someone is slaughtering your craft, but i assure you this i will not. Happy Traveling Smile



This is a very similar technic and it gives a clear and up to date mini AB or some say clean up at the end to get nothing but snow globes from ACRB , so give this a look over https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=58064 and read re-read and read some more before you attack it just be sure & confident within and it all should go well Thumbs up
 
Growth&Unity
#12 Posted : 1/25/2015 8:53:00 AM

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Of course i have read your tek Smile That was the one i was going to attack originally. But i think i will try the smaller tek, the 50g one. Just because it is my first extraction, I want to get the feel for it. As well as i've never "broken-through" or crossed that threshold while smoking DMT. So that will be perfect for me to start out with. I am no stranger to hallucinogens, but I've been told nothing can get you ready for the cliff jump. Just have to take the jump with good intentions and a good mindset. I know breaking through is going down the rabbit hole, but is breaking through anything like ego-death? I have studied and am very familiar with the Tibetan book of the dead. If not, how much DMT is required for the phenomenon?
 
Spiralout
#13 Posted : 1/25/2015 1:43:36 PM

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You can adjust any tek to scale. Why do you only want crystals; have you read anything about nmt? DMT can very well cause ego death, and "goo" will do this..
 
Growth&Unity
#14 Posted : 1/25/2015 7:12:20 PM

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Hm, thanks for the question. As far as I read, the goo was not as active as the crystals, so I never read further into it. But I will do a little more research since you brought that up to my attention.
 
Spiralout
#15 Posted : 1/25/2015 7:22:53 PM

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The goo is a combination of nmt, dmt and possibly some other trace alkaloids and also plant fat/oil if you don't defat. Nmt is not as powerful as dmt but is active and adds a "softening" effect to the experience; you seem to roll into it instead of launch into it so to speak.

I have never tried nmt on it's own but that would be interesting and I'm sure I will.
 
Growth&Unity
#16 Posted : 1/25/2015 7:51:36 PM

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I actually did surf around nmt when i first started my quest for the extraction. I was led to the goo, by people performing STB's with ACRB. STB from mimosa seemed the simplest way to extract, but due to complications that have arose in the US, mimosa is not easily obtainable as you all know. Not to mention, REMOVED That is a lot of pulls Smile nmt does sound interesting. I would love to hear about your encounters with it someday, if you intend to experiment with it.

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