These two compounds are of obvious vast difference and there for must be treated with the utmost respect here I will explain what I've gotten out of Salvia and DMT, and how I would like to change myself to help explore my mind further with these beautiful tools. I'd also like to give my thanks to Earthwalker for his Tek.

Salvia: This has been quite the experience for me, I've been experimenting with different doses and extracts to try to find a sweet spot but have yet to come that avail. Although working with salvia has been wonderful and making extracts extremely fun.

At 0x plain leaf I find it extremely relaxing, with use of meditation and music I'm able to create great CEV - with tunnels and colors with beautiful shapes but no OEV. It does give me the sense though that there is something else with me, which I've come to enjoy.

20x Was a different feeling completely. at 20x 0.2g created OEV that made the room look like panels, this experience did not last very long only 2-3 min before I came down so I waited 30min to try a larger dose. at 0.55g - Started with my eyes closed when letting out the hit I saw nothing, I wanted to see something but nothing would appear. A voice spoke to me in my minds eye, It didn't say anything per say but it did transmit the words "You haven't done enough yet, open your eyes, don't be scared" immediately I opened my eyes and everything was normal, the TV was playing a song and I could feel that there was seams to my body and they were about to burst because I had another presence inside me. My body started to move in dance while sitting. I asked in my head "is it ok get up?" so quickly It said Yes, so I asked "Can I tell my friends about you? this is just too much" and I had a reply of "You have to, it's the only way to understand." So with that I stood up and started walking though the house to meet my wife and room mate in the kitchen; as I was walking panels appeared in front of me and they created my home, once I made it there I felt so humble and explained to them what I was feeling. I didn't come down for about 15min, well after my conversation with them.

40x This is a different breed of it's own. I loaded up a 0.2 of 40x in the bong to test it out, and that's about as far as I've come with this. After inhaling the smoke deep into my lungs I had already realized I was in for a ride and I should have loaded a smaller one. I let out the smoke and was instantly grabbed and pulled through OEV - what looked like memories, or thoughts, or maybe even experiences in my life, or another life -- It all happened so fast really. (Someone came home at this point and walked into the room to say hello and talk about something) In my trip the large balloon like words scrolled across my open eye vision: ABOUT and ontop of these words were cartoon-like animals which I've yet to learn the meaning of. Well now as im shooting forward through thoughts, I also begin to be sucked through each letter of the word ABOUT. It was a twisting feeling and it was very unpleasant, it felt like I was never going to come back. When I got to the "O" in the word I saw my wife's face who's been sitting next to me for a moment and started to be twisted from her world into the darkness of the "B and A". For some reason I was unable to control my fear at this point and yelled "Stop!" and "held" on to the "O" until I came down. Where I then had to explain to my wife why I was yelling "About, and Stop at her"

note: During my 40x trip I was unable to close my eyes -- as my OEV were too intense for me at the time.

This trip has kind of scared me a little from my 40x but has not turned me away from it. I plan on going much further but I must overcome my own ego to do so.

DMT

My experience with DMT hasn't been as profound yet but I'm still trying to learn the best methods of smoking and i'd like to somehow use it orally but have been having trouble extracting b. caapi and may have to drink a vine brew.

10mg No effect


30mg + MDMA: Wonderful CEV circular morphing patterns more detailed then anything I've ever seen on psilocybin or LSD. I had a feeling of being wrapped in something which made it's own space. It was beautiful but I did not smoke it all and was unable to breakthrough

40mg: First hit, no effect, second hit all the air seemed to be sucking out of the room, and my arms and fingers getting harder and hard to move, I wanted to go for a third hit but for some reason my ego was unable to let go and I was unable to take that third hit and breakthrough



From these experiences I've gotten much more from salvia but higher extracts are something that in itself and I need to experiment more with it to understand it more. I only wish that DMT grabbed me like higher extracts of salvia did though so my ego wouldn't have time to tell me not to take that last hit and hinder me from blasting off. I've come to my own conclusion that fear is stopping me and it's only a matter of time before I'm able to overcome it. Combinations with LSD and psilocybin could be the answer -- depending on setting, but that will be in an update.

I find it interesting how flawed language is in enabling us to describe these experiences, especially the more you dose yourself up.

It's like you want so much to let it pour out of your mouth but at the end of the good half of an hour you review what you have written and you find it is just this drab, lifeless recount of instances like "I only then realized how far out I was, and it felt like so incredibly weird, then my friend came woke me up and I was like dude, are you serious" that have no correlaion to what it was acually like to experience those things, what a waste of time!

I wish everone were poets so we could make this thing even somewhat enjoyably readable.

I'll try my best,

Salvia feels as if my primary senses are being transgressed from rationality and in doing so become recieved by a modulated awareness that discerns extra-ordinary qualities. Qualities such as

"The Meaning or Locality of Space"
"How the stream of conscioussness is felt or apprehended by 'The Self'"
"Where thought itself arises"

The limitation with this substance reveals itself in its inability to sustain active for an adequate amount of time for further exploraion (ie Ayahuasca).

Unfortunately I'm not the wordsmith I'd like to be, maybe with a few overviews of the dictionary I may increase my vocabulary enough to be the beautiful poet you need to be to describe these wonderful experiences.

I've read by making a salvia tea and taking sublingually by holding it in your mouth, you're able to have a much calmer come up with longer lasting effects. I havn't tried it yet but It's on my list of things to do.