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Barosman
#1 Posted : 1/23/2015 2:51:18 AM

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Hey there,

First i want to thank the admins for giving me the possibility to talk at other forum subjects next to the welcome area Smile
But i have a little problem i feel kidney pain after doing all extracts and stuff and i don't understand how and why.
One thing i'm sure about it's a toxic thing.
What could this be possible?
I use tendo wasbenzine instead of naphta because i can't get naphta in the store in this country while wasbenzine is everywhere available.
I thought this is the best alternative solvent but now i have some doubt.
or is it just maybe that i inhaled to much vapor?
Could it be possibly the vapor of the NaOH solvent?
I try to stay save and dry my yield very good but still my kidney does not like something while this products are very pure.
Also had pure white crystals after the extracts with a very little yellow tint.
Maybe some of you can give me a tip.
I always do the STB extract with freeze precipitation but is it possible that i have some chemical residue after drying?
I also i have had many ether vapors into my lungs could this be harmful?
 

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Barosman
#2 Posted : 1/23/2015 3:08:42 AM

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Btw last hit of my changa that i made with aceton but dried for couple of days made me feel very cold.
I used syrian rue for it could it be that the smoke of MAOIs from the rue are harmful when i use it before drinking alcohol or eating meat?
I know that if i want to use ayahuasca i need a strict diet before using but i thought that it was not necessary if i just smoke some changa.
I know it is very important to work save and clean so i really need to know why my kidney hurts.
Thanks in advance for any helpful answer.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/23/2015 4:12:00 AM

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Dude you need to be very careful with MAOis no matter how you take them, whether they're smoked or ingested otherwise. I myself can't take MAOis because I'm on SSRIs. It could be coincidence though, you should see a doctor if it is your kidney. Could be UTI or kidney infection also. I don't think you will get the answer you need on the forum in regards to why your kidney hurts.

Hope it's nothing bad

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#4 Posted : 1/23/2015 7:46:10 AM

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Your kidney problem has probably nothing to do with extraction. You did not say if its only when doing extraction or also after taking dmt or anything else ?

Always make sure you have pure 100% NaOH and Naphtha. Did you do evaporation test with naphtha ?

As stated above if you need medical attention go to see doctor. We have a doctor here on nexus maybe he will come to advise you.

Hope its nothing serious and you get better quickly.


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#5 Posted : 1/23/2015 11:12:38 PM

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Barosman wrote:
But i have a little problem i feel kidney pain after doing all extracts and stuff and i don't understand how and why.
One thing i'm sure about it's a toxic thing.
What could this be possible?

What makes you so sure? I doubt that either DMT or any impurities cause problems with your kidneys, especially since the amounts that you consumed are likely very small. Perhaps what happened is that you have become more aware of preexisting issues. Perhaps it's just a coincidence.

If you feel there is a problem with your kidneys, I advise you two things:
1. Drink more water. Many people drink too little water and to much alcohol, coffee and soft drinks that are loaded with sugar. The body needs water to flush all this crap out. If you are chronically dehydrated, your kidneys suffer. If your kidneys suffer too much, many other organs will also suffer.
2. See a doctor if the above advice doesn't give relief after a few days.

Barosman wrote:
I use tendo wasbenzine instead of naphta because i can't get naphta in the store in this country while wasbenzine is everywhere available.

"Wasbenzine" is naphta.

Barosman wrote:
I thought this is the best alternative solvent but now i have some doubt. or is it just maybe that i inhaled to much vapor? Could it be possibly the vapor of the NaOH solvent? I try to stay save and dry my yield very good but still my kidney does not like something while this products are very pure. Also had pure white crystals after the extracts with a very little yellow tint. Maybe some of you can give me a tip. I always do the STB extract with freeze precipitation but is it possible that i have some chemical residue after drying?

NaOH is not a solvent and you would have to make a big effort to make it evaporate. Even if your DMT had traces of NaOH still in it and you smoked some DMT and hypothetically some NaOH dust was inhaled by you, you would have a (probably only minor) problem with your lungs, not your kidneys. AFAIK the "Tendo's" wasbenzine is clean.

Barosman wrote:
I also i have had many ether vapors into my lungs could this be harmful?

Probably not from a single extraction. If you do extractions daily, naphta fumes might become a problem after a while (months/years?)

Barosman wrote:
Btw last hit of my changa that i made with aceton but dried for couple of days made me feel very cold.

Could well be a quite normal side effect from the DMT. Mostly harmless though, just get a blanket or saturate your body with oxygen before smoking.

Barosman wrote:
I used syrian rue for it could it be that the smoke of MAOIs from the rue are harmful when i use it before drinking alcohol or eating meat?

AFAIK alcohol and meat are not a big problem anyway in combination with harmalas. When smoking harmalas, the dose is much lower than with ayahuasca and it does not affect the digestive system as much as oral administration does.
 
 
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