yes there are people who know exactly what im talking about and i have read many such material on here thats why i signed up, so i can hear other people with "exprience" view and opinions of what they think of it all and i have already had some good replies on here.



have only done psychedilics 2 or 3 times and i never encountered evil spirits. My expriences are natural with out any drugs, just throught meditation and reaching higher states of concioussness such as the astral plane where you do Out of body exprience or during sleep pralysis.



This process happened like 8 years ago i am way past that stage.



maybe i didnt explain my self properly. I have had some of the best expriences of my life in altered states weather with orall DMT or meditation or dreams or out of body exprience.

Go read peoples expriences on google or other forums during sleep pralysis, specially when they are very stressed, sick or depressed, and see what they exprienced. All i am saying is those expriences are very real and not made up by your mind and mental junk hallucinations, like main stream society will have you believe. Your welcome to disagree. many people will tell you they exprienced being sleep in their bed, their eyes open and can see in their room, but cannot move their body while surrounded by one or more demonic or evil entities. There are books on this and im also syaing based on my own exprience which matches or is very similar to everyone elses.



I can totally understand every explanation you come up with

selling the soul is the obvious answer ........to the devil ofcourse

no soul , no food for evil entities

No soul = no existence = not good at all. I would not trade my soul for anything

Isn't there only one "soul", unconditioned existence, manifestating itself in the here and now? And aren't all explainations just lousy construtcs of our intellect, which is in need to feel in control and security. Lost in the intellect, searching for a kind of truth wich can only be a image.

There is nothing to fear and nothing to achieve. Everything is already in perfection, enlighted and what ever in the here and now.

love, tseuq

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ad professional help; I think that common western therapy will treat people, because of a leak of understanding the underlying processes or/and maybe the middle age point of view on humans (f.e. body-mind-problem), mainly by supressing the "symptoms" with heavy medication. To me, when shizophrenia can be excluded, it sounds more like a structural-integration-deficit, often caused by a disorienting experience on the trip with no intra- or interpersonal help to find a good way "back".

Maybe something like "caught in one's believes"

yes if you can constantly stay present you would probaly feel like your in heaven

I mean this in all sincerity because you are one of the few posters I respect on this board, but I think one of these days you just might argue with someone on this particular subject who is more then able to melt your face

To the OP:

Have you tried to communicate with this entity, maybe even tell it to leave? I recommend if you are able to, create your own daily ritual to banish this from your life. Be creative, become surprised

it is very difficult to come in contact with it let alone communicate.

The only way i can come face to face with it is in the "sleep pralysis" plane, its the same as astral plane, or other side, the same plane when your doing a out of body exprience, once you break through and can leave your body.

Even then it will not show it self if you are alert and awake, it will only come if you reach that stage scared, confused or vulnerabale.

So i am attempting to put my self in that state while pretending to be scared and confused until he can show him self. But to reach that stage means shutting down your thoughts "which it feeds me" non stop to not allow me to be present hence very difficult to reach that stage as you would need to silence your mind for at least 5-10 minutes.

Sleep paralysis, now we are getting somewhere. Oddly enough I went through sleep paralysis the other night, I feel asleep jamming out to pentatonic minor in my head only to wake up from an extremely trippy dream paralyzed, confused, and unable to remember how I even got into bed! I was going for an obe before I went to sleep, I think that had something to do with it.

I really must say, reading how you present yourself, you must be far more intuitive then I am. Have you tried a more analytical approach to your art? Sort of like a counterbalance? I can tell you that it has worked wonders for me especially concerning what may or may not be parasitic entities.

I'll have to keep this short......

About 7 years ago, I had my first encounter with an entity attached to me.

In the middle of sleep, I woke up into this other realmly version of my bedroom.

This thing...this, dark, shadowy entity....was in my closet (yes, I know...go figure. He was in the closet ) But, it was.

It was very grimacing and very intimidating, giving off an air of.....well, imagine Sauran in the LOTR movies, but less aggressive and more of a disturbance.

Lying in bed, I was paralyzed. My head field (see Buddha paintings) was electric and buzzing. I was totally expksed. A thought of something to do with the Heart came up. Beyond the speed of immediacy, 'I' land straight in the center of my heart, and this 'Boom' field came out, just like you see in the Buddha paintings. I was frightened, yet protected.

Then next time, I was not so lucky.

Paralyzed, again, in the same scenario. Both, in our same places. Thismtime, my Boom field failed to come out. Its not a willful thing.

I grabbed a crystal from under my pillow (a naively pre-planned defense). A Danburite, in fact. Known as a Shaman's stone. I was find out why.

I quickly shot out of my body, in spiritual flight across the room.

I noticed my desk along the way, thinking that's not right.....It's in the wrong place, and messy. That's not becoming of me.

The desk being a short detour, I wound up in front of the closet, face down, hovering above the floor.

This thing.....proceeded to suck the life force out of my body, extracting from the base of my skull and from right behind my heart. It was the most awful thing ever. Like being....raped....helplessly.

Third time I met it, I simply woke up and it was behind me. Raping me, sucking me. Wouldn't let me turn around. Impossible weight to go up against. Same thing, from the spine, just behind the heart (center) and from the base of the skull. Awful, just awful.

I have not met it since, but stil feel it's effects. I have also been severely chronically I'll for the past ten years, starting with an infection and subsequent tonsillectomy. I feel this thing attached to me during anesthesia. I haven't felt right since.

Worth noting is that I have a nervous disease, which seems to stem from my spine. Sucked dry, I feel. I struggle to gain top-down control over my body. Governance. Rule. My nervous system winds up spasming, flexing and contracting all day long, like the illustrations of I'll. It's almost like something has control of my spine.

I've continually neglected this viewpoint, coming at it from every therapeutic angle I could think of. I've been to medical institutes,shaman's in Peru, on the table of Indian medicine, etc...to no avail. It's worth noting that in the Amazon, a woman had an encounter with this being that is attached to me. She experienced it as a witch. A her. An evil demon, dark being. After her encounter she was violently sick, hurling outside of the bungalow. I thought she was a man, and as i was on watch duty that night, i went out to help her. I was surprised to find it was her, and upon her telling me the cause of it, i felt a burden for her having had contact with my problem...this entity.

In some wise words she shared with me before I left, she told me....

"Transform or die. Do not take this lightly. You will have transform, or die."

"I know", I replied.

She seemed to think i was taking it lightly, and i was, as i already knew and was just receiving confirmation of it. I was also aware that this was not the time or the place to delve into it, as this was not a loving & supportive environment I had sank myself into.

In the next month, I am moving to Costa Rica, into a very loving & supportive environment. This is where I plan to do my my work.

Releasing, healing, letting go and letting light.

For only within the shining Light of Awareness, can it not see itself abiding.

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Wow......glad I kept that short. Typing on a qwerty and twitching around dips not the easiest feat in the world. [If something quite honestly doesnt make sense, blame the ever present evil of the auto-correct entity]

I would like to add that this disease I live with, while it has its physical, biological and mundane causes, it is intimiately correlated with this diseased entity. Everything has its causal levels, and just as we have a higher self or more awareness in various planes of existence, this thing too has it's more aware and sentient states.

All this being said, it's still in my nervous system and I have have absolute control over gaining control over.

It's just something I experienced, and it's as trivial as a parasite. Once you get rid of it, you just feel better. But it's real, and while it's there, it can sure make you feel like shit.

I understand you 100% were on the same page and i exprienced everything you exprienced the same way, and i exprienced those lights as well, you exprienced enlightment, as i did too. for me i was attempting a out of body exprience, all of a sudden, i heard a sound as if my body computer shut down and i was in pure presence (best feeling i ever had), then in my field of view two beams of bright yellowish/orange light came from both ends of my view (Left and right) and the beams of light met in the center and explodes and everything including my entire self lit up, and this extremely pleasant white/yellowish light filled me and i was soaking in it. Its not possible to exprience a better feeling.

Iv tried to pull him off me on several occasions but he is attached to me with a powerful magnetic force, you pull him off by 1 inch with all your power and it sticks right back like a magnet, which explains why im always getting negative, violent thoughts or inappropiate thoughts, as my field of energy has turned negative, and with this magnetic force his attached to me. So he feeds me negative thoughts and i feed him negative energy. Im sure there are some parasites or insects who also do this, where they plant eggs in another insect posses its mind and eventually eats it from the inside.

So this tells me i must take control of my mind then it cant feed me to get fed back in negative emotion and it can get starved. Just like you i get negative feelings al the time for no reason and anxiety over nothing.

However i feel the tide is slowly turning for me as iv gone past the fear stage and every night i pray for an encounter with it, so i can learn more as i have alredy been experimenting with some very positive results. But when your aware and awake it wont come when your in that realm, so must fake that your scared and vulnerable to pull it out. and Yes in several occasions it has hid in my closet also. Not long ago i went into a out of body exprience and went around the house looking for it but couldnt find it, but it was because i was very alert and ready for war.

I have a very good understanding now on how it works and what ways i can fight it even thou it will be a difficult fight.


Some advice for you.

1. Buy yourself the "power of now" book by ekhart tolle. it teaches you how to keep your mind present and that thing has absoloutly no control over you in anyway when your mind is present, as when your present no thoughts can come in, and thats its only way to control you and feed off you. So this is a big weapon in your arsenal, by also knowing you have the final say. It can only feed from you if your confused and not sure whats happening or not aware of it. however regulary staying present takes alot of practice, and the entity will keep trying to feed you thoughts to divert you from presence. If you dont know this already this is the single most important strategy in dealing with it. (for me the problem is its difficult to stay present) it will feed you thoughts like "your present, your doing welll your going to defeat the demon", they may sound like positive thoughts, but any thought will pull you away from presence and you can easily mistake it as your self. it takes alot of dicipline, and i suggest you invest most your energy in this, pure presence.

you can become present by feeling anything (your hand, your head, your weight on the couch, the air from the fan or your breathing) I highly reccomend feeling your head and third eye as thats your control center which the entity can have easy access to if your not watching voer it.

2. When you find your self paralysed (sleep pralysis) you cant physically move your body like how you do now, the secret is to move your body parts with your "intention" not "muscle". int hat plane your mind/intention controls everything including your own movement. Same as how you do out of body exprience, yyou move out of your body with your intention. this is the next experiment awaiting the entity, as i am hoping to put my self in sleep pralysis to meet it and try using my intention to interact with it. When i was trying to pull him off me, i was off balance, with some level of fear and panic, as sometimes i randomly find my self in that realm in the middle of the night in between dreams, so it takes a while to get your awareness and realise where you are and whats happening so often it gets the better of me.

3. generally evil entities weather in dreams, os astral plane cannot tolerate love, and if your feeling love or emitting love they wont come near you.


4. I have healed my self on several occasions with my intention. its tricky to explain but i will try.

Your body operates on Chi energy, and this energy comes from your chakras. right now if you just try and feel your skin, that tingly subtle energy you start to feel if you pay attention thats Chi. This entity has blocked some of your chakras (mine too), which prevents chi from feeding your body will energy it needs to heal and repair it self amongst other things. See this entity came through my stomach chakra, and i have always had stomach issues and regulary dont have appetite to eat. But when i am happy and in a good mood i have no problem i feel 100% healthy, but other times 60% overall emotionally and physically.

So anyway if your not exprienced with this it will take practice, you need to be able to feel your chi and with your intention divert it all around your body while in a meditative state, specially to the trouble areas. Hold your hand up, and just focus on your thumb, notice the slight subtle diffrenced between your thumb compared to your other fingers, then move one by one to your pinky finger, one by one applying all your focus just one that particular finger. You shouldeventually become familiar with chi and you can play with it and practice by holding both your hands togethor and making a Chi ball, by keeping your hands 10cm apart and with your intention just like you did in the earlier excersise make your hands emit chi, and just try and feel the heat and subtle energy, eventuall your both hands will act like when you hold two opposite sides of magnet which push eachother away and difficult to make them touch. Then you can do this with your entire body. ****its very important you stay present while your doing this and not thinking about what your doing, just try and feel as muchas you can*****

Once you get to that stage, all you do is, relax get comfy, take few deep breaths while, start feeling your body and its chi, and visualise what chi would look like if visually repsented (i visuallise this (white, violet, goldish) current of energy coming from my head and all through out my body, i then visualise areas of illness and deases, and i visualise a war between the two energies, this chi energy cleanses the desease from inside out, and cleanses me of the desease mollecules, not giving them a chance to breath, and after this point i intentionally feel my self cleansed of the bad molecules, and i visualise myself as 100% healthy free of anything, with 100% curtanty it has worked. I then imagine how it would feel like once i got up and feeling good and healing my self and i keep that feeling as if its happened right now and im expriencing it.

I used to get sick 4-5 (cold, flu, virus) times a year since i was young and now i havnmt been sick for 2 years and thats how i did it.

i am also planing a visit to peru to see what i can learn from the shamans.

To finish off stay strong and know by staying present you have the final say and you can effectively starve it, this understanding brought me a long way, from being affraid to go to sleep when i was younger. Everytime it feeds me thoughts or effects my reality i smile and feel empowered that i am fully aware of it with 0% fear. I pray every day for encounter with it when im alert. Change your attitude from victim to the hunter. Since i felt like this, it physically doesnt come to me in that realm, it sticks to feeding me negative thoughts and feeding of the negative energy i release as a result, but he knows he would get a much better feed from me if it physically rapes or attacks me, but the entity also know that im aware of it and whats going on and i feel like this could be why he'll stay patient and try and catch me unconciousse or confused.

Just the fact that the entity hides from us when were aware is a major weakness of his and there must be a good reason for it, a entity like that would not get scaredand feel fear for no reason, and this weakness of his is what i intend to expose. He turned me into a aggresive monster in my teenager days and i found my self and i intend to use this violence against him.

Im not yet too sure about the memory part, iv thought baout it alot, in my opinion based on what i know i have a good suspicioun that they have something to do with erasing your memory.

OBE and the sleep pralysis are the same realm, the only diffrence is when your paralysed, the entity has made you paralysed to fuck with you. When you intentionally do OBE, you are focused and alert, and it will not come near you, when it knows you are aware and mentally awake. This is its weakpoint amongst others.



not sure if i understand what exactly you mean, care to elaborate?

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One cant rationalise with irational people . Argueing with them or trying to convince them that they are irational often only reinforces their confusion ...... because they then try to justify it and defend it = They dig themselves even deeper into their confusion and reinforce it .

GOD, will you respectfully F off. You contributed nothing.

My answers in this thread ae based on specific advice from a neurology / psychaitry profesor . I asked him how i should responsibly react and answer and have followed his advice .

If that particular scenario occurs i am more than ok with it. Any sceptic that is worth their salt would be happy to be proven wrong and i am not averse to eating a bit of humble pie every once in a while. If you feel up to the challenge fire away but i"ve a feeling that if i ever get my face melted it will more than likely be self induced. (i like you too Redguard)

In defence of the foil hat solution i do believe that it does have some value. If, and i do mean if, it is a manifestation of the mind then it could possibly work as a placebo. Belief is a powerful force. Look at how many people swear by homeopathy and we all know that"s a bunch of baloney.

Don"t tear me a new one for coming across as Mr mechanistic but the supernatuaral and magic is just stuff that we haven"t worked out how the nuts and bolts hold it together.

May have to excuse my wording... I simply am tired of feeling discouraged from voicing my opinion on the matter. Each party in these discussions firmly believes they are right. I would just like it if the 'rationals' would stop believing that their beliefs are more right because they are more 'rational' and in-line with modern atheist understanding. While this problem may require a more intuitive understanding. With all due respect.

The last time I felt under attack. I thought if it would be beneficial to be in an isolation tank yes or no. I am not certain.

Infected style please do not be offended by my next comment as i think that you are an ok dude. When i saw the above quoted comment i thought that you were referring to being under verbal attack from the comments on this forum and it made me wonder if there could be a correlation between people who feel easily threatened and evil entities.

"Rational" people arguing their cases are not necessarily believing that they are more right it"s just that we believe differently.

I like nutters like David Icke and Hyperspace Fool and i also like nutters like Richard Dawkins and Zon Buddhist. They are the glue that holds the human race together and help to keep things interesting.

not sure why people are arguing. what is the argument about??? you either understand the material said or you dont. If you understand then you wouldnt be arguing, if you dont understand then you could either seek more information or pass it offf as non sense and move on....

There is all this talk of Rational and logic, surely if your someone that applies that to your self then, you wouldnt be here arguing or giving pointless comments. If your going to disagree and say im wrong then at least explain your self properly tell me based on what you think im wrong, so i can properly concider what your saying.

Im not the one to establish a belif and lock it in permenantly i understand with time it can change