A couple days ago I began my extraction. Starting with 21 packets, with 60ish seeds or 1.5g each pack. So a total of around 1250 seeds of Heavenly Blue Morning Glory by Burpee. I first weighed them out to be 42 grams, them Burpee boys always hook a brotha up

First I washed them with water then dried them out and pulverized them in my coffee grinder. I soaked and pulled twice from Naptha, then tossed the gunky solution but kept the seed mush. It was submerged for around 5 hours in Naptha. I sort of made this technique up and its my first try, it probably wont be too pure but I dont think thats too big of an issue its better than eating the seed or a CWE.

I throw the seed mush into a jar with some 40% Vodka, thats the best I had. Since LSA is water soluble I thought a solution being 40% alcohol would be good enough. So I did 3 pulls and kept the solution, the mush sat in the alcohol for around 15 hours in total.

I poured the clear brownish purple solution into a glass container for evaporation. It is about 1 inch tall, which means it will take a while to fully evaporate, especially since I only used 40% Vodka. I have left the glass for evaporation and I will be back home in a week or 2 to show the final product.

This is my first LSA extraction ever. I could have done something very wrong, so let me know, and this is not a tek it is my attempt at summarizing multiple techniques using the substances in my house already. There must be much more efficient methods check out Kash's to get the pure stuff.

The last picture is of the first pull while the 2nd was still soaking. The 1st pull had much less alcohol because I wanted to see some of it evaporate to get an idea of the purity. The 2nd and 3rd pulls used more alcohol and were shaken and left to sit over longer time periods. There may be some sugars or something in the vodka which may not let the product completely dry, but I wont know for a couple weeks when I see the entire yield.

Or if someone who's experienced just let me know if they think I will die if I try it? Still deciding if I will when I get back.

This technique will definitely work but DO NOT eat all of that!
You are correct that using the 40% alcohol will still pull the LSA because it is water soluble, but that greatly increases the amount of one of the two things that causes the nausea.
The polarity of your solvent correlates to how much of this substance is pulled.
I'm not sure what the substance is but I have gotten it somewhat isolated (it took the form of a yellow shiny crystal that glows dark green under UV light) and it is very polar.
It's not very soluble in acetone or high percentage iso/ethanol, so that's your best bet.

Anyways, the point being if you eat all of that you will very likely be sick. Extracting with water is OK, it just lowers the amount you can take without being sick.
I would start off trying a third of it.
As long as you made sure there was no smell of naphtha after evap and you don't take all of it you should have no worries.

ergopeptines.

..which is why A/B chem is preferable to alcoholic extractions of ergoline alkaloids (cleavage occurs at the amide).

Care to elaborate any? I am very interested in this but now I'm confused.
Are you saying the thing I was trying to describe that causes nausea is an ergopeptine?
Why is A/B preferred and what would you pull with?

yes. pH to 10 with dilute ammonia, and pull with ethyl acetate or dcm. salt with 2% tartaric acid in everclear.

Ok that is standard for me (dcm being the solvent of choice because I can't get ethyl acetate)
But do you not first pull with acetone or alcohol? That is where my confusion is.

no, you do not.
you can acidify with aqueous citric acid, to pH 4 or 5

I have tried pulling with citric water and then pulling from the water with dcm. The only thing I didn't like is that the water pulls WAYYY more stuff (including that annoying ergopeptine)
I had always thought it was preferred to pull with acetone or alcohol, evap, then dissolve what you have in citric water.
I have never seen of or tried a STB kind of method. Would you pull with water, base with ammonia, then pull with dcm?

acidify, basify, pull.

yes

All right, I think I may do some type of recystallization after this all evaporates because I want zero nasuea and I calculate I have around 7 doses. I just need one or two. Here are some pictures its been sitting a week. I saw some dots in the solution so I turned the flash on and now they look like crystals which makes me excited. I took organic chemistry 2 lab last semester and I figured I could probably just throw the solution in the freezer right quick then filter and get some crystals out then weigh it, I have a scale that goes to the .01g

Or just wait another week or 2 and see if it just crystallizes on its own which would be way prettier IMO, but much more hopeful... I dont think there will be any bad stuff in there since I did some Naptha pulls. But I'm definately no expert. Thanks for the replies guys!!!

Could I add citric acid at this point or is it way too late? I read up on ergotoxins I had no idea about all the other things in there... Maybe there is an A/B ReX tek for LSA

LSA takes quite a bit of refinement for a crystal. Really I've yet to see any technique that gives DMT-like crystals.
It's not too late to refine it more though.

You could follow Kash's tek starting from the step where you make citric water.
Add enough citric water to your extract to dissolve everything that will dissolve (some of it won't but don't worry about that) then filter and continue with the rest.

A few tips -
Right before you base by adding a diluted ammonia solution to your main solution, add lots of salt to the main solution and let it dissolve. This helps get the freebase out of the water layer and avoids emulsions (IME with salt, even shaking it won't cause an emulsion)
DCM is significantly more effective than toluene IME. Xylene and ethyl acetate have been used but I can't speak on how they compare.
Also the naphtha defatting part could be skipped if you wanted since you defatted first.
Doing the A/B to clean it up is prone to loss. It will definitely be less than 7 doses. I personally would take it half at a time once it is cleaned up.

Good luck and I'm interested in hearing your results

So are the shiny floating sparkles not LSA crystals?

And If I just let it all evaporate and eat some of it you think I'd get sick? Some people eat like 200 seeds or do the CWE but I did a polar and nonpolar wash so it should be even more refined. But not as pure as Kash's. The reason I didn't use Kash's tek to begin with was I had limited time and ingredients, so I'm not sure if Ill have time to try it now. I may wait to see what is left from the evaporation to decide.

I'm not sure what the sparkles are, but if they were LSA crystals I would be pretty shocked. I've never seen crystal looking things pop up like that though.

You could eat some of it without getting sick. And since you used drinkable alcohol you don't even really need to wait for it to be completely dry.
Different people have different levels they can eat though.
I personally would do around a 400 seed dose with an extraction like this.
If you aren't sure how you react and aren't sure of the potency of your seeds I think around 250 would be a good bet under any circumstances.

Wow, I was just about to write to benzyme asking for some sources of I. tricolor containing ergopeptines, since I had researched the subject in the past and was under the impression that the endophytic fungus didn't create any such large ergolines. After spending some time trying to find my old source, I came across this article.

Review of the genus Ipomoea: traditional uses, chemistry and biological activities

Use the search function in your browser to go to I. tricolor and it says this:


So there you have it. Ipomoea tricolor is a power plant containing an amalgamation of alkaloids. Faint of heart best extract

I just let it all evaporate, I probably wont ingest it however. Maybe.

Kash developed what I consider to be the gold standard in LSA extractions

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._Advanced_LSA_Extraction

Blessings
~ND

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