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DeltaSpice
#1 Posted : 1/16/2015 10:09:10 PM

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I just felt like talking about Changa.
There might be a few tips in what I say for those who are thinking about making Changa.

I also want to start sentences without the use of "I" but it aint easy Smile

Making Changa is some thing I enjoy , especially testing the end product.
After a couple of years making Changa there are a few things I have learnt. I have a feeling people will not agree with some of the things I say but these are findings I have found to be true for me.
Firstly I only use a gram of plant material per batch. Certain materials don't last. For instance I have a large batch of Blue Lotus petal Changa which has gone funny over time and I have a large batch of Lions Tail which is going the same way. The harder twig or shrub type plants seem to have an infinite life and the softer type plant material doesn't last so long, even in air tight containers.
Also I have large batches of different Passion flower Changas that I will never use. At first I was blown away by the effects and there longevity so I made lots more. Then I started to realise that it gave me a slight head ache and an uncomfortable feeling, say compared to Blue Lotus which gives me blissful feelings.

My most preferred Plant materials to use are, Damiana and Heimia salicifolia .
Ratios are important, depending on how I will smoke the changa. If its from my bong then I use the 1g Herb, 1g DMT, 500mg Harmala ratio Changa. However if im gonna place the changa in a Rizal with some Mullein then I need to get out the 1.1.1 Changa.
I've found that neat Changa in bong requires less Harmala .

I also turned a load of Changa into dust "Changa Dust" but for some reason it doesn't work . I have a load of Pau Darco Changa that I blended to dust. It now has a plastic taste and the effects are next to useless, ( the carpet moves) wow.

I also find that pre cured Changa is more potent , maybe there is trace alcohol pre cure, hence more potent effects?

I recently took a gram of finely shredded B.Caapi Red Vine and added equal amounts of DMT and Rue Harmala to create some thing truly special.
Earlier this evening I had a smoke and was transported to what I would call an Art Gallery from another dimension , beautiful , dynamic items made of silver and gold, spaced out evenly in a sterile environment. There were these silver cubes with unexplainable happenings within them. As I entered the experience I was saying "Thank you, Thank You" mentally, because I knew this was a gift and an honour . Millions of people will live full lives having never seen such awe inspiring beauty.
I have a lot more to say but I'm tired and I'm sure your thinking "Shut up!" Rolling eyes
 

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spawn9076
#2 Posted : 1/17/2015 4:56:56 AM

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Hello I have also been to this other worldly art hall full of cubes with unimaginable colours and workings going on.

regarding you changa an plant material storing it in and air tight container in the freezer I have found increases its shelf life.

I use the ratio of 1:1:1 and I like to use mint as a base its soothingness when smoked is great for me
 
DeltaSpice
#3 Posted : 1/17/2015 12:17:11 PM

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spawn9076 wrote:
Hello I have also been to this other worldly art hall full of cubes with unimaginable colours and workings going on.

regarding you changa an plant material storing it in and air tight container in the freezer I have found increases its shelf life.

I use the ratio of 1:1:1 and I like to use mint as a base its soothingness when smoked is great for me

I can see how freezing it would help but I think ill just stick to fresh Changa.
Also im waiting for some Black Vine to arrive, then I will extract the Alks and add it to the vine with spice of course. That is some thing I cannot wait for.
The vines look like the future to me Cool
 
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#4 Posted : 1/17/2015 1:25:30 PM

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Have you incorporated thh into changa?
I'm working on my first batch & i have an extract that has just about equal ratios of harmine & thh + a small amount of harmaline.

I'm planning on infusing 1g black caapi leaf with ~250mg of the extract + another 1g 10x caapi leaf material that got pretty powdered down & 1g of the cleanest spice i can manage.

 
DeltaSpice
#5 Posted : 1/17/2015 3:15:59 PM

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I have been trying for some time to get some THH. I tried the 20x alcohol method , I think we all start there. The results are poor in comparison to using Rue Harmala.
I also did an extraction an Black Ayahuasca only to find out it contains no alkaloids.
I'm aiming for the pinnacle, which for me must be, B.Caapi Vine (Black) Alkaloid extraction, infused onto B. Caapi Vine (Black) + Spice, all equal amounts.
Finley shredding the whole vine is the only tricky part I can foresee.
 
3rdI
#6 Posted : 1/17/2015 5:17:47 PM

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hello DeltaSpice,

why is it that you think black aya is the pinnacle?
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

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DeltaSpice
#7 Posted : 1/18/2015 10:36:30 AM

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3rdI wrote:
hello DeltaSpice,

why is it that you think black aya is the pinnacle?

Hi 3rdI, Firstly, to have Alkaloids containing THH is some thing I am really looking forward to and from what I've read, Caapi Alks are the business.
Secondly, I have felt negative about vines for a while but that relationship is changing since using Red B Caapi vine to house my Harmala and Spice. I realise that there is some thing special about the vines and its the perfect plant material for Changa, as in it wont decay over time like some other plant materials.
My Red Vine Changa is producing the best experiences to date. Also the Trueno variety is supposed to be the strongest.

I see my vine relationship like music. There is the kind of music that takes a while to grow on you and that type of music will last forever, then there is the kind that instantly appeals to you, that type wont last and is short lived, like pop.
Same theory applies to most things in my life. ppl included.

Probably when I reach my Changa pinnacle there will be a new pinnacle, progression is where its at Smile
 
3rdI
#8 Posted : 1/18/2015 5:45:48 PM

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i can understand wanting to get the THH in the mix but im not sure i put to much stock into what vendors say there vines are, strongest vine i ever had wasnt labelled as black, it was labelled as yellow.

a while ago i did a side by side with 50g of several different vines from 1 well known reliable vendor and came out with these results

19 yellow - 596mg
1 cielo - 530mg
17 yellow - 277mg
18 black - 252mg
8 red - 236mg

cant say what the ratio of alks in each sample was but safe to say i will always go with yellow now.

I find that every pinnacle turns out to be a false summit
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

it's all in your mind, but what's your mind???

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DeltaSpice
#9 Posted : 1/18/2015 9:03:40 PM

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3rdI wrote:
i can understand wanting to get the THH in the mix but im not sure i put to much stock into what vendors say there vines are, strongest vine i ever had wasnt labelled as black, it was labelled as yellow.

a while ago i did a side by side with 50g of several different vines from 1 well known reliable vendor and came out with these results

yellow 19- 596mg
cielo 1- 530mg
yellow 17- 277mg
black 18- 252mg
red 8- 236mg

cant say what the ratio of alks in each sample was but safe to say i will always go with yellow now.

I find that every pinnacle turns out to be a false summit

"I find that every pinnacle turns out to be a false summit" is that in Changa related issues or do you mean in life in general?
I have hit the pinnacle in quite a few areas, I have a drive for the best.
As for the strength of vines, I'm not sure where I read that black was the daddy but I have heard of people preferring all types .
I'll just be glad to experiment with new Changas.
I don't quite understand your results 19-596mg means nothing to me... Thanks
 
3rdI
#10 Posted : 1/18/2015 9:22:17 PM

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DeltaSpice wrote:
is that in Changa related issues or do you mean in life in general?

i mean DMT, every time i think it cant get any better, it seems to eclipse itself.

DeltaSpice wrote:
I don't quite understand your results 19-596mg means nothing to me... Thanks

just realised thats a little confusing, i have edited it now.

good luck with your blends
INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT

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