Hey all!

Right now I'm in the process of brewing an ayahuasca analoge from MHRB and Harmine HCL and could need some feedback.

What I did till now:

I took 30g of MHRB and did three 1/2 hour acid boils at a ph about 4.0.

This resulted in about 1,5l liquid.

After this I tried the egg-white method for tannin removal. I'm unable to say if this worked well or not.

I strained the brew through coffee filters two times after this and then reduced it to about 300 ml.

I put that in the fridge over night to let it settle.

This morning I discarded the solids which gathered on the ground of my vessel.

I'm at a volume of 250ml now and unsure how to proceed. This is cause I'm not really a friend of those two component solutions (for completely subjective reasons) and I'd like to have the dmt and the harmalas combined in one shot.

The bark I use is descently potent and I guess the DMT content in my solution to be arround 0.6g. I want to devide the solution into maybe six doses and start with half a dose.

Can I just throw harmine hcl into the solution? How much should I add?

" Can I just throw harmine hcl into the solution? "

Yes .


" How much should I add? "

The equivalent of 3 G of P.Harmala per dose .


" After this I tried the GODs egg-white method for tannin removal. "

We taste the mixture before and after . The method isnt to remove tanin its to remove other things as well . I got it from the geman 2nd world war coffee cleaning method . They only had crap coffee and putting the egg white in removes the bad taste so it tastes like good coffee .

The crap about tanin is crap . Tannin used to be used to help people with things like travel and seasickness . The tanin itself is OK . Its the things that the tanin soaks up that are not good = We can also put tanin in things ......... like we do when we make wine ....... and that soaks up things we dont want in the wine .

Wether it soaks up DMT or not i dont know .


EDIT - And you will need to take the equivalent of three G of P.Harmala for the half dose to .

Nice.



I read P.Harmala contains about 4% to 7% harmala alkaloids. So...if I do the math...

3g*6=9g

9g/100*4=0,36g

9g/100*7=0,63g

...I should, according to you, add something between 0,4g and 0,6g Harmine HCL. In regards of the harmine dosages which are recommended for Pharmahuasca on here this looks to me like it maybe wouldn't be enough. Could certainly be wrong tough.




From what I read on here, it's likely that it does remove some. At least to a certain extend.

The three G. P.Harmala doesnt come from me . Its the dose usualy recomended .

And yes there is a good chance that that does soak up some DMT ...... BUT ...... i / we dont know for sure and if it is so how much . Unless someone has done lab tests ?

So I'll hope for some else to chime in regarding the dosage of the harmine HCL as I'm interested in a second opinion. Thanks so far.

Oral dosage for Harmine is 150-250mg.

Oral dosage for Harmine is 150-250mg.

Thank you.

I went with 200mg Harmine HCL and what I estimated to be a half dose. I came to the conclusion that taking aya makes no sense _for me_. Not because of the underwhelming effects I experienced (it was clear in the beginning that this won't be a full blown experience because of the low dose), but because of the handling.

Eating/drinking hallucinogens just isn't for me especially when I'm unsure about how much is in there.

Of course...I could have made pharma. I would know nearly the exact ammount of goodies then. But still...there is this waiting time, there is ones form on the day which is different from day to day, there is the possibility of puking.

Naaaa...I'll stay with vaping. And if I wanted a really long ride I'd go for vaporhuasca as this gives me the opportunity of tuning the dose in small steps and in near realtime.

During my experience I was lying on the sofa with a blindfold on and shamanic drums in the backgound. I had CEVs and after taking off the blindfold and eating a bit I was in tryptamine wonderland / candyland within 5 minutes after eating.

Overall it was a pleasant experience. Neverless I'll basify the rest of my mimosa brew, pull the goodies out and make another batch of changa. *g*