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starway6
#1 Posted : 1/9/2015 12:31:14 AM

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This is early but im a bit pleased with these results i got when i tryed to remove the extract from some very good 7x salvia extract..

Ill try to put pics below ...showing the dark 7x salvia extract ..then the same extract with all color and outer alcaloids removed by soaking in 190 proof grain alcohol over night..

Then pouring off the extract rich ethenol through a fine metal screen filter then stored liquid in a seperate dropper bottle....

I mistakenly asumed that all the actives were in the grain alcohol.. but got a big surprise when i smoked the cleaned dry green leaf material..

I totally expected the lighter green dryed leaf material to be non active..

But was i pleasntly surprised!... when i test smoked a tiny pinch of the cracker dry light green leaf material!!...[how can anything be left in this leaf material . I thought!

Then Lighting up a tiny pinch of the cracker dry green leaf i noticed that it tasted cleaner and smoother..



In a short time.. i began feeling salvias effects comming on in the most pleasent gentle smooth way!.. unlike the more intense way that the dark extract has worked befor...

Another thing i noticed was ..[NO BODY LOAD!]. just a gentle increasing buzz that felt similar to a low dose of LSD..

This was more of a head experiance no body load...

I asumed that i would leach out all of the extracted actives from the extract but through ...[some process]?? some actives..[higher than whats found in plain leaf stayed in the leaf material and the experiance was good in my opinion as i was gently tripping without body load!

This was the most gentle but effective asent into salvia space ive ever experianced !

I can even say that i enjoyed this grade of salvia because so little gave great results!

Most regular plain leaf dsalvia takes inhaling a huge amount of combusted leaf material something i dont care for...

This will take more testing but this may be a way for more people to enjoy salvia extracts by removing the darker outer coating of alcaloids...It mellows it out so much...

Not shure what happened to the leaf material i planned to dispose of but now im keeping it to smoke later...

So for those who arent tolerent of the heavily darkened mind blowing extracts like 10x..20x and higher try soaking it overnight or for 24 hours in 190 proof ever clear grain alcohol and you may find a more gentle cleaner product that is very phycoactive and smoother and gentler that you may enjoy more...

I even suspect that the removed alcaloids i stored in the dropper bottle can be dropered onto other smokable herbs at a strength more to your likeing...

I came close to just disposing of the dryed green leaf materia but i lucily tryed it and liked it..
Anyone else please try this with your salvia extract if its too strong for you...
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#2 Posted : 1/9/2015 2:16:22 AM

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If I remember correctly, from one of Gibran's posts, Salivnorin A is soluble in 99% iso at .7mg per ml. And grain alcohol, containing more water, even less would migrate to the grain alcohol.

I highly suggest doing your own Salvinorin extraction from pure leaf. Gibran has a great extraction method that is in the Salvia subsection. It is a very easy extraction to do.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/9/2015 2:45:56 AM

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I dont have pure leaf..
If you read this carefully.. im trying to remove the extract from ...[salvia 7x] leaving only the plant leaf material behind... and in my atempt to do so ..[to my surprise]..i find the left over plant material is ..[still active!].. and a much cleaner experiance...

Im my opinion it smokes cleaner and smoother and still very psycoactive...
Im already using the best alcohol i can find ...[190 proof ever clear..96 percent purity...

I was origionally trying to extract the salvorian A that was aleady there to make into a tincture .but durring process I found that the left over leaf particles were still active!..smoke cleaner and smoother..

This could make salvia extracts a better experiance for those who dont like the over whelming salvia extract experiance with its heavy bodyload..

In effect ive cleaned..or removed negitive alkaloids from the extract making it a cleaner smoother relaxed experiance...
 
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#4 Posted : 1/9/2015 3:35:51 AM

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starway6 wrote:
I dont have pure leaf..
If you read this carefully.. im trying to remove the extract from ...[salvia 7x] leaving only the plant leaf material behind... and in my atempt to do so ..[to my surprise]..i find the left over plant material is ..[still active!].. and a much cleaner experiance...


I know, I read it. I was suggesting you use pure leaf in the future. It will be cheaper, and you will know exactly how it was done. Re extracting, already extracted material which you didn't extract yourself seems like it's defeating the purpose of extracting at all. If you are interested in ''cleaner experience'', I suggest doing it yourself, otherwise you don't know what someone else has done to your extract.


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This could make salvia extracts a better experiance for those who dont like the over whelming salvia extract experiance with its heavy bodyload..


If you don't like to be overwhelmed by salvia, smoke pure leaf...It's simple. And if you don't like to smoke pure leaf because of the taste, extract salvinorin A and put it on leaf you like. That way you know the exact dosage and how it was extracted instead of using a commercially produced extract and re extracting from that. You can do a couple simple quick washes with ice cold acetone to remove all of the salvinorin and put that on your favorite tasting leaf.

Also, to my knowledge, there are no other alkloids in Salvia besides Salvinorin A and B. There's lots of chlorophyll which isn't too much fun to smoke but quick ice cold washes with acetone pulls very little chlorophyll.

Obviously you are welcome to do as you please, but it seems to me that your methods and intentions are self-contradicting.


 
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#5 Posted : 1/9/2015 4:00:48 AM

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[Re extracting] is working great for me!

I can adjust potency and save the pulled salvorian in a bottle for later use anytime i like..

I know what im doing..And im very happy with my results or i wouldent be posting this..

The effects of my reduced salvia extract is way more potent than plain leaf could ever be...

I know what im talking about.. this is an improvment over what i had..


Its a cleaner product easier to smoke no body load...

This post is just a good idea im sharing..peace..


 
 
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