Let me hear it up from the sorcerers.
Shout out for all the wizards out here
I want to know how you intergrated your experiences.
Or is that too much to ask?

Respectfully humble,
Just another psychedelic Student

Actually I have high hopes for this tale: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=62132

Still if somebody feels like making a Novel. Feel free to do so here. I am much gullible to you

I just figured that intergrating mushrooms and lsd is easy. But actually trying to intergrate DMT experiences seems like a much more monomental task.

what a magnificent tale, must have been written by a handsome fella

I think i have successfully intergrated most of the journeys that need to be intergrated, im not sure they all need intergrating as some of them, like it or not, were just fun as hell, very cool things to experience, but ultimately could be discribed as throw away, i dont think i need to intergrate fun, i just need to pick my jaw up off the floor, dust myself off, and thank existence for hooking up the monkeys with something as magnificent as The Magic

I have found that intergration of the experiences that were meaningful is easier when you study them and read into them what is most useful to you as an individual. I try not to take them at face value and spend much time pondering what they could mean. for example this is how i would have interpreted/intergrated HazyGamers experience

obviously there are many ways you could interperate that experience but IMO it is better to take something positive from the experience. Since we have no clue what they mean i figure why look on the dark side? I try to look on the bright side of all things, i find it makes life better.

When i say take something positive i dont mean that the things have to be pink and fluffy straight away, some of the things i have realised while deep in the madness have made me quite sad in the aftermath and it is only when i have sorted out my life to illiminte them that the positives has blossomed.

What is integration exactly?

I think integration is never really completely over. It's a process of revisiting one's thoughts and experiences through the new-found awareness. So one can add dimensions of understanding to previous trips or general life experiences.

I think it's easier to tell when one hasn't integrated at all, which leaves many obvious issues lingering in one's behavior and mental patterns. But to claim full integration is almost like claiming enlightenment. But I think one can def strive towards integrating in as balanced way as possible, and there are many levels to this.

Personally I've tried to integrate pretty much all of my trips but I bet there are lessons I have not noticed or details I've forgotten... If they are important, they will likely come back in the future.

As for what is integration, I really like the ideas in the health and safety section.

I spend a lot of time trying to integrate experimental results into my current physics understanding. This is how I am most familiar with the idea of integration. On the other hand, a DMT trip is not like an experiment to me. Sure I choose how much I vaporize, but everything after that seems out of my control. My body parts slip away while I am not looking and I am left to sit back and observes the other thing. In that sense it is like a movie: It is not interactive; it plays and I watch. I can do nothing to affect it and thus it has no affect on me ultimately. It is not an experiment but an empty perception; there is no give and take, so there isn't anything to integrate. I say "well, that was something" and then go about my day.

Perhaps I am using it incorrectly, but I think I may just be jaded. I used to chisel away at a psychedelic worldview, but that worldview has since been ravaged by efficiency. Regarding all things psychedelic, I'm more like an outsider looking in at this point.

Most importantly I think that intergration is best left as open to interpretation as humanly possible to allow for a more wider variety of intergrations to occur.



Good question, I haven't really put much thought in it. I will give it a go. Besides that I think everyone should make a concept for their own selfs I do have my opinions on intergration.

My intergration has been in the form of writing and drawing different emanations of my psyche and compartmentalize in categories what is observed in psychedelic experience. Mainly, hallucinations, thought-forms and emotions that have surfaced during a specific psychedelic experience. When I do this I can then draw connections within each concept and find what it means and how it relates to the self. My question is why these things come up and how to categorize them into a realistic framework as to what actually occured and why things progress as they occur during the experience. This could mean a psychological explanation or a spiritual framework. Or the interaction of the psyche and the "spirit world". Whatever that means.

I find for example Grof "Realms of the human unconsciousness" explains some aspects of the experience and relates them to common fields of psychology. In the thousands of therapies he has done with LSD he has succesfully dissapated certain sets of psychogologically harmful experience in almost all of his patients so they never have to occur again. This I think is in part due to succesfull intergration of psychological emanations but the book does little to explain the why's and how's. Atleast, I have found it unsatisfying from what I have read thus far.

In holotropic breathwork part of the intergration is making Mandalas. This is I think a good psychological cornerstone for psychological intergration. And provides a framework for healing and getting to know one's self. But, since psychedelic experience has so many different layers. I think ultimately intergration has an end but that would be practically impossible for one person alone to achieve because that would mean understanding and relating each and every detail of psychedelic experience in relationship to everything that it is connected to.

Personally, I find most difficulty in healing "Transpersonal" harmful psychological manifestation. Atleast, they are the most difficult to understand in a western framework without the need for telepathy and spiritual intergration. I haven't even begun trying to unravel some of the more out-there DMT experiernces that I've had. Yet.. some have been suprisingly easy to find meaningful interpretation. But only in the psychological respects. And only in a psychospiritual context.

I never think about it. I used to, but I guess I became less and less satisfied that I was truly integrating something so far beyond anything I've seen sober. It's like being hit by lightning sent from aliens from the clown universe projected in 4d. I personally feel like I want to just have it in my head and let it run free as the wild beast that it is.

Thanks Orion. Your perspective is appeciated. Some aspects of the experience as 'lived' as they are. IMO. They will change you wheter we intergrate them yes or no.

To answer the question, no, but I don't think that's problematic. As others have said before, its not like dmt trips have only one specific textbook meaning. Like interpreting art, there can be many valid interpretations, depending on context, which can alter as we change. For me dmt is a catalyst, a breaker of perception, a mirror. I get out what I put in.

I also re-read my trip reports to see how I've done with the wisdom I thought I gained. My arrogance tells me I learned a great deal, my self reflection tells me I have a long way to go.

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I mostly agree with Orion. It's there if it is needed, but in this world it isn't always needed. For me, I cannot force integration. When it comes time for the experience to add meaning to life, it will be there. Until then, I try to laugh a lot.

Thank you for all ur replies.



While I generally agree with the statement that a DMT trip has many interprations, depending on context, which can alter. Depending on where you are in life and who is doing the interpretation. But so has every situation in life, it has many different perspectives on the matter.

As far as the reality of a given situation like in life and I would suggest can also be applied during DMT trips and dreams. There is only one specific reality. The science is un-breakable. While open to change. Some perspectives last for a long time. For example, Newton's laws. While subject to alterations, remain laws in their appropiate context.

For me, integration is ongoing. The DMT experience works like a jumping-off platform; wherever im at in my life, the experience takes that current platform of my life and weaves accordingly. It works with what you give it, and any rough patches - it 'can' highlight and make you much more aware so that integration can be applied to everyday-consensus reality.