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Phyllodium pulchellum has been reported to have a 5-Meo-DMT content of 0.2-0.3%. That means 2 grams of plant material should contain 4-6mg of 5-Meo-DMT, enough for a sublingual dose. I figure 2 grams sounds like a good place to start. Even if you end up having to double the dose 4 grams is still quiddable.
I'm just curious if anyone's tried it. I don't have any plant material to experiment with myself, but I do have a few seeds so hopefully I'll be able to start experimenting in the near future.
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Quote:Constituents - Study yielded a new glycoside, the 1-glucosylrhamnoside of physcion from the seeds of D pulchellum. - Contains tryptamines. - Roots yield betulin, a-amyrin, and ß-sitosterol. - Study yielded fifteen simple indolic bases (I-XV) with three broad structural types, viz., indole-3-alkylamine, ß-carboline, and tetrahydro-ß-carboline. Fruits showed the major accumulation of Nb-oxides while the roots localized the quarternary bases. http://stuartxchange.com/PayangPayang.html
so there's apparently also ß-carboline, and tetrahydro-ß-carboline i am interested in where you found seeds, perhaps you could pm me.
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LOL I've just collected a bunch of seeds in Southern Thailand, and spent an evening identifying the plant. (I collected them simply because it's a very interesting-looking little bush.) So it ended up being Phyllodium pulchellum
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itIS very pretty, and unusual looking. The first i ever heard of this. Thanks for sharing! *ALL WAYS WITH LOVE
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Yes, it has 2 types of leaves. The small leaves provide a sort of hood over the flowers and fruits. The flower shoots can get very long, around 1 meter each, drooping. I was attracted to this plant purely for its decorative appeal. It's only after I identified it that I saw all the information on its tryptamine content. I can share seeds with people interested in serious experimentation.
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I found no reference to it in the Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants but Garden of Eden has some on it, as Desmodium. There's some on the alkaloid content...
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And this one seems to mention traditional medicinal uses: http://www.ijprr.com/Fil...r/203-206%28ijprr%29.pdf
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Om yah i would love to grow some of those and experiment! That is very considerate of you to offer so iam sending a pm. *ALL WAYS WITH LOVE
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I also have serious inquiries about this specimen. 'What's going to happen?' 'Something wonderful.'
Skip the manual, now, where's the master switch?
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D. pulchellum whole plant from India has yielded 0.3% alkaloids in one test [including, as % of plant, 0.2-0.25% 5-MeO-DMT, and 0.0018% of combined DMT, DMT N-oxide and bufotenine] (Ghosal & Mukherjee 1964); another test also found 0.0004% 5-MeO-DMT N-oxide, 5-MeO- NMT and gramine (Ghosal & Mukherjee 1966). The root of the young seedling has yielded c.0.27% DMT, 0.011% DMT N-oxide, 0.041% DMT N-methylcation, 0.022% N-methyl-serotonin, traces of 5-MeO- NMT, 0.026% adrenoglomerulotropin and traces of 6-MeO-N-methyl- -carbolinium salt; root of mature plants yielded 0.067-0.451% DMT, 0.012-0.121% DMT N-oxide, 0.022-0.132% 5-MeO-DMT, 0.013% N- methyl-serotonin, 0.0015% 3-alkylindole, 0.001% 5-OH-3-alkylindole, and traces of bufotenine, bufotenine N-oxide and 2-methyl-pinoline. Stem and leaf of mature plants yielded 0.294% DMT, 0.07% DMT N-oxide, 0.476% 5-MeO-DMT, 0.154% 5-MeO-tryptamine, 0.112% bufotenine and traces of bufotenine N-oxide. Green fruits and ripe seeds yielded 0.001% DMT, up to 0.007% DMT N-oxide and c.0.002% each of 5-MeO-DMT and 5-MeO-tryptamine; harman, tetrahydroharman and pinoline were also found in seeds, harman also in fruits (Ghosal 1972; Ghosal et al. 1972c). The plant has also yielded hordenine, norharman, 2-methyl-THC, 2-me- thyl--carbolinium quaternary salt, 1,2-dimethyl-6-MeO-THC, melino- nine F, and canavanine. In dogs, the stem-leaf alkaloids [0.1mg/kg i.v.] caused initial respiratory stimulation, followed by hypotension and severe bronchoconstriction, which resulted in death in some cases; cardiac de- pression was also observed. Alkaloids of the green fruits and seeds inhib- ited cholinesterase (Bell et al. 1978; Ghosal 1972; Ghosal & Mukherjee 1966; Ghosal et al. 1970b, 1972c; Harborne et al. ed. 1971; Shulgin & Shulgin 1997).
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Quote:In dogs, the stem-leaf alkaloids [0.1mg/kg i.v.] caused initial respiratory stimulation, followed by hypotension and severe bronchoconstriction, which resulted in death in some cases; cardiac de- pression was also observed. Alkaloids of the green fruits and seeds inhib- ited cholinesterase Dog biochemistry is, of course, different from that of humans, but this makes me concerned. An easily quiddable source of substituted tryptamines would be very nice, but I wouldn't want to put anything in my mouth that I thought might be poisonous. Tripping while suffocating from bronchoconstriction doesn't sound like a good time. Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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[Bump] Any results on this yet?
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[Bump] Just started growing pulchellum a few weeks ago! I will share ongoing activity if all goes well. 'What's going to happen?' 'Something wonderful.'
Skip the manual, now, where's the master switch?
We are interstellar stardust, the re-dox co-factors of existence. Serve the sacred laws of the universe before your time comes to an end. Oh yes, you shall be rewarded.
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[bump]
so? how does it work then?
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Here's an interesting link to a paper published in 2016. It investigates the effects of alkaloid fractions isolated from the roots of P. pulchellum: https://www.hindawi.com/...rnals/ecam/2016/6826175/«Our cleverness far exceeds our wisdom and that's a problem. We've got to become wise, and when we couple that with our ingenuity and our cleverness, then we will be on the way toward saving the planet and saving ourselves.» ―Dennis McKenna
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Beta-Sitosterol is also a beneficial plant sterol. Gets metabolized into testosterone. It helps cure enlarged prostate. Etc.
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Notes on the genus Desmodium: http://troutsnotes.com/w...014/11/D2_2004_Trout.pdf “There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." ― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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