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Poll Question : Have you chewed catha edulis before?
Choice Votes Statistics
Yes 7 30 %
No 5 21 %
No, would like to though 11 47 %


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Aegle
#1 Posted : 6/1/2009 12:48:10 PM

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Catha Edulis is one of my top 5 entheogens and i am keen to see how many people have chewed khat before Very happy


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#2 Posted : 6/1/2009 12:56:08 PM

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My vote is yes quite a number of times, i find it very useful for meditation, mind clearing and body purification. I always get these beautiful and magical sparkles in my vision to which are very similar to the sparkles i see on mescaline they are very similar to me though khat doesn't have the hallucination properties that mescaline has.


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#3 Posted : 6/1/2009 1:01:10 PM

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very good for a physical and mental cleansing - perhaps 2-4 times per year at most for swim as he is not a major fan of stimulants.
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...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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kemist
#4 Posted : 6/1/2009 1:19:22 PM

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No ILPT hasn`t

How much One need to chew, dried, fresh, either ...
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
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#5 Posted : 6/1/2009 1:34:45 PM

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Kemist

They come in fresh bundles and the outer soft bark is what is peeled off and chewed as well as the soft top shoots and leafs. The redder the catha edulis the better as this is said to determine potency. If ethiopians are in your country than catha edulis is easily obtainable from Ethiopian restaurants. I usually buy one bundle to spilt between two people, it takes quite some time to chew half a bundle but its well worth it though. Its great to eat and share with your partner or friends. I like to have clove tea and some hash handy which go very well in combination while chewing catha edulis Very happy


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#6 Posted : 6/1/2009 1:42:54 PM

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best tek for this is the traditional tek
Make some clove and cinnamon tea - put on some nice music, sit comfortably with beanbags and pillows around, burn insense, chat, etc...
Eat beforehand as you wont be hungry for a long time.
the khat must be picked the same day its eaten - by the second day 50% of its activity is lost and thats if its stored in a cold moist place, third day or dried its useless.


antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
kemist
#7 Posted : 6/2/2009 7:53:37 AM

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Aegle wrote:
Kemist

They come in fresh bundles and the outer soft bark is what is peeled off and chewed as well as the soft top shoots and leafs. The redder the catha edulis the better as this is said to determine potency. If ethiopians are in your country than catha edulis is easily obtainable from Ethiopian restaurants. I usually buy one bundle to spilt between two people, it takes quite some time to chew half a bundle but its well worth it though. Its great to eat and share with your partner or friends. I like to have clove tea and some hash handy which go very well in combination while chewing catha edulis Very happy


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Can you be mor specific?
I mean the effects....
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
Phlux-
#8 Posted : 6/2/2009 8:19:29 AM

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it looks like this when purchased




old pix a friend took ages ago, what it looks like varies quite a bit.
The tek for eating it goes like this :

take one stem piece as pictured above - break off each little stem - then take each little stem and while holding it at the base, bite off the soft red outer bark and put it in your cheek, keep removing the soft red bark, green bark and leaves in this manner chewing the quid in your cheek the whole time - the piece that u discard is just plain wood - the wood from the center of the piece.
Clove and cinnamon tea is traditional i think its main purpose is to soften the mucous membrane(its made preddy sweet too because the sweetness goes so well with the flavour of khat - often a bowl of sugar is left around, each person takes a tiny paper scoop and adds it to the quid as they feel like it.)
The traditional food to eat before is injera.
cannabis or hash goes down well with it swims heard.

antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
Aegle
#9 Posted : 6/2/2009 5:29:36 PM

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Kemist

You should of just asked.
This is my own personal view, ok its very euphoric, simulates speech, keeps you wide awake for quite sum time, i do get sparkles in my vision which aren't complete hallucinations but are hallucinations. Khat is almost exactly like cactus for me with very similar effects and purification properties, just without the colourful hallucinations of cactus and the plant spirit of the cactus of course. I personally feel its closer to a phenethylamine than an amphetamine.


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Infinite I
#10 Posted : 6/5/2009 3:43:30 PM

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Ive not had some Khat in a few months but was using it fairly reguarly last year, only had it a few times this year. I really enjoy it and would love to grow it one day. Has anyone ever made a tea from the plant? I heard you could do this and avoid the chewing? I tried it but I didnt use a blender so it didnt work, my friend said it worked and was almost like mdma, kinda what your saying aegle, ill have to get some again, its been a while!
 
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#11 Posted : 6/5/2009 4:04:33 PM

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Infinite I wrote:
Ive not had some Khat in a few months but was using it fairly reguarly last year, only had it a few times this year. I really enjoy it and would love to grow it one day. Has anyone ever made a tea from the plant? I heard you could do this and avoid the chewing? I tried it but I didnt use a blender so it didnt work, my friend said it worked and was almost like mdma, kinda what your saying aegle, ill have to get some again, its been a while!


Its like cactus pretty much with large amounts of euphoria and sparkles but no colorful hallucinations there are transparent hallucinations though. I have tried both the tea and the chewing method and the chewing method works much better and the effects are much stronger, yes i know the chewing is time consuming but i personally enjoy the chewing its very interactive and great when you are socializing with a few friends. Very happy


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Infinite I
#12 Posted : 6/5/2009 4:08:41 PM

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Yes I dont mind a good chew from time to time! lol
 
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#13 Posted : 6/5/2009 4:20:51 PM

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Infinite I wrote:
Yes I dont mind a good chew from time to time! lol


Indeed i do to, if you want to make the tea try the tea but i can promise you the chewing method is far superior Wink

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Infinite I
#14 Posted : 6/5/2009 4:41:23 PM

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Cool, I heard the tea was pretty horrible, might give it a bash though.
 
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#15 Posted : 6/5/2009 6:06:38 PM

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Infinite I wrote:
Cool, I heard the tea was pretty horrible, might give it a bash though.


Indeed you must try it out for yourself as everything affects each person differently, i really liked the taste of the tea the effects just weren't strong enough for me personally Very happy


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Phlux-
#16 Posted : 11/18/2009 6:16:17 AM

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bushmen in south africa take it as a tea - hence the common south african name - bushmans tea, on prep - no idea, il try find out tho.
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


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the leaves are terrible tasting, at least the older ones are.
leaves maker a good tea, stronger than Camellia, not quite as euphoric as Coca, but somehwere in between.
in the pic, the stems seem to be quite young, almost look like suckers.
if the older and redder the material is, what would the woody stems rate?
green glossy leaves with red veins are almost like pine needles to chew, only taste not bitter and piney but very bitter and astringent.
has anyone tried to smoke the dried leaves?
 
Phlux-
#18 Posted : 11/18/2009 7:50:19 AM

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i love the taste of the leaves, bitter but delicious(if u find it too bitter u can add a tiny amount of sugar to ur quid) - only the fleshy stuff around the wooden core is chewed.
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


Quote:
‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell


Quote:
‹xtechre› cheese is great


He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.

 
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#19 Posted : 11/20/2009 9:19:37 AM
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Tried chewing a few times mainly leaves my plant needs a trim so I’m going to try the red part of the shoots this weekend

Do you find it makes your mouth really dry?

I also find the taste or bitterness seems to change each time I pick some maybe temp or seasons make a differance

I want to post some photo's but i cant work out how to.Crying or very sad

Can some one help out an old noob Rolling eyes

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#20 Posted : 11/21/2009 6:18:27 PM

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Khat is really easy to grow and plants are easy to obtain.

If anybody is looking for plants please PM (no I am not selling them personally, I'm going to link you to a vendor).

Just remember the plants are illegal in the USA, but totally legal in Europe and Canada, so I encourage you to grow Khat if you live in a place where it's legal, my vendor ships all over the world!
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