I will summarize what this is and what it may mean for you as a biological life form exploring alternative explanations of consciousness aswell as existing among billions of artificial electronic devices:

The electromagnetic field is the result of electrically charged particles in motion, the motion creates a field of electromagnetic energy that is both electric and magnetic in nature.

As the brain is an electrical system, it radiates an electomagnetic field around it just as all electronic systems do.

The implications of this fact is that there is unatural interference impinging on our brains and scientific studies prove that electronic device such as mobile phones, laptops and WiFi dramatically alter natural brain wave function and capability.

The nature of the way this phenomenon is existing may run deeper than what science supposes though.

Theories propose that the brain's electromagnetic field creates a representation of the information in the neurons. The digital information from neurons is integrated to form a conscious electromagnetic information field in the brain.

Consciousness is suggested to be the component of this field that is transmitted back to neurons, and communicates its state externally. Thoughts are viewed as electromagnetic representations of neuronal information, and the experience of free will in our choice of actions is argued to be our subjective experience of the field acting on our neurons.

Neurons generate patterns in the EM field, which in turn modulate the firing of particular neurons. There is only conscious agency in the sense that the field itself is conscious.

Another theory suggests that the EM field comprises a universal consciousness that experiences the sensations, perceptions, thoughts and emotions of every conscious being in the universe.

The concepts underlying these theories derive from the physicists who suppose a quantum field that is created from the electric dipoles of water in the brain. This field is postulated to interact with quantum waves generated by the biomolecules in neurons, which are suggested to propagate along the neuronal network. The interaction between the energy quanta (corticons) of the quantum field and the biomolecular waves of the neuronal network produces consciousness.

In an wildly imaginative, conclusive interperation by myself, I wish to explain why it is that most people assume there is no correlation between their brain state and the artificial electromagnetic fields created by the technology of modern society. I want to give an interperation that is in no way evidential but nevertheless will provide an example as to the myriad of dynamic ways of interperating such processes we find ourselves in in the world of which we know very little...

I often wonder if this is not all wrapped in a deeper level of purposivity and possible control over the human race. Put your firmly laid beliefs and rational mind aside for a moment and suppose human intelligence aswell as scientific discovery owe its complete origins to an alien species living amongst humans in disguise as humans. While on the one hand technology is designed for our benefit and on the other to lead astray some aspects of our natural minds ability to percieve or understand that of which would be a detriment to a secret process on earth which is governed by a species that have a use for earth's technology and resources. Considering this with the fact the there are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on the whole wide world, it perhaps may not seem so foreign albeit slightly paranoid and bizarre while still adhering to sound logic.

I need not state in excess that average contempory IQ levels are on the decrease in relation to the past 500 years even despite new advances in fields such as quantum physics etc. I think we should not forget concepts like these if we have any hope of keeping our dignity that is born from living care-free animal lives. All to often in every culture of humans I visit, the majority are hell-bent on success that doesn't exist, all of them waiting for the happiness or fulfillment that appears to be around the corner but never trully arives. They are so mixed up in just trying to survive in their economic circumstance that they give in to conditioning and lose the ability to see within themselves in detail, to see any possible alterations in there state of mind that may arise when being influenced by the invisible fields of technology. They wake up like the day before and as they comit there day to "work" they exist in the unchanging, disconcerted, cold dissociation from there true selves masked over as a normal state of sanity. To the observant mind though, many things exist that hadn't before.

Now, I seek the harmony of nature and to embrace the discord that technology bestows on my observant mind.

Further reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/...heories_of_consciousness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnEWvBsRjBo
http://www.dataasylum.com/
http://www.scientificame...le/mind-control-by-cell/
http://www.globalhealing...cts-health-dangers-wifi/
http://en.wikipedia.org/...agnetic_hypersensitivity
http://www.huffingtonpos...toria-era_n_3293846.html
http://www.amren.com/new...their-intellectual-peak/
https://www.google.com/s...+for+an+hour&spell=1
https://www.google.com/s...gnetic+mind+control&

When intezam was a child, we found a book under the dome of an old but functional mosque, it was called "initiation into hermetics".It was covered in pigeon feces. We've read it.... It mentioned the electro-magnetic fields in great detail, how they differed in man/woman/body parts/organs and fluids....etc.

Then, much later when we moved and fled to the barren & eerie charnel grounds of the industrial Waste in 2000, we've gotten sick inmediatly upon arrival (we was struck by grand mal seizure). After all, we should not be too comfortable it seems ...lol

Where we came from, there was no wifi at the time, no mobile phones yet (the filthy rich had bulky satellite phones). But the little demons and demonesses (aka children ) of the charnel ground's Waste already had been carrying a mobile phone each....thx to Santa

These early demon phones where perhaps not as well isolated as the ones used nowadays. We continued to have seizures until 2005, when we decided to stop (all medication) and adjust to the climate of charnel ground. It is too long-winded to get into all this, all we want to say is, it had to do with the way we sleep, on which side and such, also never to use a blanket again or any other cosy comfort nonsense things (incl. bhang; certain other foods)

The GM seizures then stopped and did not return. Bye bye! Now we have wifi, smart phone ....etc and we're fine..

One strange/unrelated thing we found out about intezam was: In the time (about 2 to 11 mins) after a GM seizure we would respond to anyone in their first native tongues i.e. we would respond in Polish, Japanese, Persian; French, Dutch, Hebrew, Chinese, Uighur, German, Korean, Azeri, Tigriniya or Other, just any native language of the person who found us in convulsions, we would use that then... By the time 15mins had passed, we would recall our name, where we originated (this time) ...and all, by that time knowledge of these languages would be all but gone.

Anyways, we don't miss that at all....It (GM seizures) felt like a chunk of life force ripped from us...which was not returned. So that sucked...

A fine supposition It would explain the relative rapidity with which our species intelligence has flowered. As if our entire purpose is to gather X (resources) and transport them to Y (off world?) like a universal employee (slave) of a company whose perception of time of is greatly different to ours.
It makes you wonder what on Earth would be so valuable to an intergalactic species. Looking back through history, one might extract the notion of death being the most abundant resource on the planet.

Don't you have anything to say about the content of my original post? It is as if you have glanced what I wrote and proceded to respond with some almost irrelevant instance in your life that applied to the topic.

Furthermore, apart from what you say about sleep and dreams I did not find your post in anyway useful or informative, especially with regard to links to completely irrelevant subjects like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaInJ_huJ9M

I suppose I could say the same of yours. Maybe a scifi forum or 'energetic' one is better suited to this nonsense?

Over 200,000 a day doesn't seem like a bad yield.

Although, I don't think it pays to speculate on how exactly unless of course for the enjoyment of the imaginative elements of it. As such, contemporary sci-fi portrays these hypothetical phenomena with such detail of dialogue:

* Energy Farm in The Matrix
* Therns in John Carter
* Aliens in Men In Black
* Host Body Aliens in Avatar
* Aliens in They Live
* Beings in Dark City
* Aliens in La Belle Verte

Either way, differing interperatations such as these give people an example as to how one might better apprehend alternative meanings as to there existance on Earth, or rather how that process might be occuring in opposition to the very mundane, easily suggestable view that schools provide.

While I can't comment much on the topic of EM field, I will comment on the topic above. I completely agree with your point of view here. I see this as a difficult topic to get people to grasp.

When you say, "...and lose the ability to see within themselves in detail, to see any possible alterations in there state of mind that may arise when being influenced by the invisible fields of technology." I believe the invisible fields of technology is synonymous with things like substance abuse and personality disorders. I say that because I believe that the reason people don't notice this alteration in their state of mind because they don't truly understand who they are at their core.

At least in the U.S. this is what it seems like. Many people growing up don't ever learn about themselves on an intrapersonal level. I don't blame them because one of the best ways to find out who you are is to take a substance that takes you out of your everyday headspace for a bit and then brings you back. You don't truly realize who you are until you aren't you for a little bit.

These people don't understand who they are, so understanding how something has changed them is nearly impossible if they didn't ever really understand where they started or where their baseline was to begin with.

The original post was about The Electromagnetic Theory of Consciousness which is a reputable theory discussed among many scientist and quantum theorists and this pertains to alternative states of conscioussness which is what this forum is dedicated to.

https://en.wikipedia.org...heories_of_consciousness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnjoe_McFadden
http://www.informationph...ions/scientists/pockett/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroomi_Umezawa
https://en.wikipedia.org...ki/Herbert_Fr%C3%B6hlich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari_Jibu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunio_Yasue

As for the Sci-Fi element, I was merely expounding on what the implications of such a concept may mean for humans in everyday reality. If I hadn't done this, the topic might have given way to an unimaginative discussion which is not what people on the DMT-Nexus are about IMO.

If you don't have the capacity to understand this, there is an easy version available for you here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...m=581907&#post581907

And seriously, if your not willing to back your claim with arguments and opinions you might as well not have even posted in the first place.

Here's just one example of your nonsense:

"I need not state in excess that average contempory IQ levels are on the decrease in relation to the past 500 years even despite new advances in fields such as quantum physics etc."

So, IQ tests have been going on for 500 years? Interesting given formal IQ tests were developed in the past 100. How then are you comparing 500 years worth of statistics on the subject?

To me you are not a good fit here and looking at your confrontational attitude I think you best find other forums to espouse your nonsense. I am happy to show you the door as my predecessor Art would have done in years past.

Cheers.

He is right though, from what research I have done.

It seems studies began in 1800's. The OP must have assumed that people in the Age of Enlightenment were smarter, probably because of such high quality art & literature that were produced which is beyond that found in the 19th & 20th century. I don't have to even begin to explain why most people can't understand shakespeare haha I definately think they could understand concepts with a lot more perspicacity and breadth of relationship than we can currently. Still, such a comment as the OP isn't dangerously far from the truth, it is yet, well, quite acceptable to say such a thing merely in giving an exaggerated example...

https://jellereumer.file...telligence-daling-iq.pdf
http://theeuropeanobserv...nations-dropping-as.html
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
http://www.dailymail.co....le-IQ-decline.html?login
http://miami.cbslocal.co...try-iq-scores-declining/
http://blogs.discovermag...as-well-as-intelligence/
http://www.naturalnews.c...ce_IQ_Victorian_Era.html
http://phys.org/news/201...rn-day-counterparts.html
https://brainsize.wordpr...sterners/comment-page-1/
https://www.examiner.com...-since-the-victorian-age
http://www.amren.com/new...-than-us-study-suggests/
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/

I would tend to agree with you on the matter that evidently some of privileged thinkers from the age on enlightenment and beyond had a certain flexibility in their thought, or as you put it" could understand concepts with a lot more perspicacity and breadth of relationship than we can currently". But this "evident" comprehension from past art and literature could be due to the sheer volume of humans that exist currently giving an inaccurate visibility of what magnificence of the human mind truly exists out there in the world today.

We are living in an age of mass media and social feed addiction which has been proven to reduce our attention spans, let alone desire to engage in intellectual pursuits. Because of this it would be hard to ascertain an accurate measure. In principle, IQ is genetic though. So even in a world where peoples minds aren't utilized, they lay dormant for a period of time until the right set of circumstances provide the ability to express it.

I don’t think people are any more or less smart than they have been for thousands of years. I think we just pay attention to different things depending on whatever circumstances we find ourselves in. I’ve noticed indigenous folk living something of a fourth world life and still hanging on to the last remnants of hunter gatherer knowledge, appear to a first worlder to be unsophisticated and oblivious until you pay attention to what they’re paying attention to. They are infinitely more aware of social cues amongst themselves and the relationships in the natural environment around them.

I think interdisciplinary genius is going to be something of a rarity because of the shear depth we’ve achieved in each respective field. Even the absolutely brilliant must spend decades absorbing specialized knowledge of what our species has already learned in a given field in order to make significant contributions.


But really I just wanted to mention how much I miss Intezam’s participation here. I do hope he’s okay.

This 100%. I think it requires an open-minded approach which a lot of academics become naively binded to. Knowledge has that kind of effect on humans mind. Its a flame in the dark suppose to illuminate the dark (presupposing proper humility), but with many their attention gets engulfed in the flame of what they do know and they become blinded to the other potential flames around them.

This is never more true with science and spirituality or as you say, science and "social cues amongst themselves and the relationships in the natural environment around them" which can't always be accounted for in language.

I sit here wondering why someone would come into a community like this and in the first instance of recognition their natural response is to belittle someone in such a rude fashion. I was forced to go back and take my "yes" vote and turn it to a thumbs down. No matter what interesting theories you have to offer, if you cannot adhere to the attitude portion of the rules, you can find somewhere else to share your findings if you ask me. That "elite" nonsense is for the birds, and the horrendous attitude "Dr. Dmitri" has shown here completely negated any interest I had in his/her post. If you want folks to listen and contribute, perhaps at least make an attempt to be cordial? Idk, just my 2 cents.



EDIT: I just noticed how long ago the original post was, and clearly this person has moved along. My bad, just ignore me

Just google "flynn effect". In industrialised countries, average performance on IQ tests has been increasing over the past few decades.

I thought that was common knowledge by now.

I also don't think that you can that easily state that art from the age of enlightenment was better than art is nowadays, as an objective fact.
Personal tastes and preferences do play a role, both in producing art, as well as in assessing the quality of it.

But even if you look at art purely from an intellectual point of view, and you would consider something like "complexity" just by itself an aspect on the basis of wich the quality of a work of art can be determined, wich by the way is a point of view i would not recommend because an awfull lot would be lost within it, the statement is not objectively true.

Music for instance, definately has become more complex, rather than less.
Many of the works of bela bartok, igor strawinsky, sergei prokoview, are incredibly complex compared to the stuff that mozart or beethoven wrote.

Anybody with a good set of ears and familiar with musical notation, could easily transcribe a mozart or beethoven symphony by hearing. With the music from the composers i mentioned, and with a lot of jazz music as well, this is notably much more difficult.

And with visual art, if you would want to argue that leonardo da vinci, michelangelo, rembrandt, vermeer or dürer where better painters than say, mondriaan, picasso or kokoschka, or any of the impressionist painters, because their work is more realistic in nature, then you should look into photorealistic painting.
If anything, it would indicate that the technical skills of modern painters have increased rather than decreased.

Wich should maybe beg the question if there could be more to art than technical skill alone.

But anyway, i don't think you can say that people have been getting dumber. The challenges of today are different than the challenges of the past.

Comparing people of the past with the people alive today is always unfair to both.

It is impossible for engineers today to invent something like the wheel. Impossible for composers to write something with the same music-historical impact as the first well-tempered or universally-tempered music.

And impossible for the people who build the pyramids, to invent the microchip. Or for j.s.bach, to play a miles davis solo.

Hitting the preverbial nail on the proverbial head, dragonrider.

I think it should also be noted, with regards to IQ, that 1. It is an abstraction. 2. It is a test developed from Western paradigms, and as such relegates itself to western biases of all kinds therein. It does not run the worldly gamut of thought, ideal, conception, etc. 3. If one is not conditioned to think and prioritize thought patterns within western paradigms (which can come from sources such as culture and upbringing) of thought, then they will foreseeably not do well, though they could be an exceptionally minded individual.

The IQ test was initially developed and applied in a narrow way to a very small subset of children for class placement (if I'm not mistaken).

We probably shouldn't put too much stake in it.

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Yes. Flynn himself also drew this conclusion.

I think in relation to what was stated earlier in the thread though, that IQ in combination with some other things like life expectancy or body length (people are also getting taller), does indicate that the general health of the population has improved over the past century.

In spite of all the modern lifestyle diseases.

In many more primitive societies, things like malnutrition, child labour, exposure to all kinds of pollution, etc, are often worse than in post industrial societies.

That demonstrates that this is is by far not a world of equal opportunities yet. But also that we have the capacity to improve all of these conditions.

And in turn, these can have effects on cognitive development which then extends to iq.

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I had always thought of these as maladies caused by cultures with unsustainable growth models, perpetuating those models by exploiting other cultures who didn’t take that path.

I could possibly agree that we now have more opportunities for intellectual stimulation which has been linked to increasing measurable intelligence, but genetics have also been linked to intelligence. There are a lot of people very successfully reproducing in the modern industrialized world, who may very well have been removed from the gene pool if they had to have the wherewithal required of a hunter/gatherer. Several of my coworkers come to mind

The genetic link is even more reason why we shouldn't take it so seriously. No one had/has control over the genetics they recieve and possess.

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