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DansMaTete
#41 Posted : 9/9/2014 3:02:14 AM

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No i didn't try after one week and i don't want to try cause mescaline is too precious for me (not the price but the availability) to waste.
Anyway, it's not so easy to set up 24h free to trip so i don't mind to wait 3 weeks or even more.Smile
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#42 Posted : 9/9/2014 3:04:37 AM

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DansMaTete wrote:
No i didn't try after one week and i don't want to try cause mescaline is too precious for me (not the price but the availability) to waste.
Anyway, it's not so easy to set up 24h free to trip so i don't mind to wait 3 weeks or even more.Smile


Ah yes, I see your point.

There's also the time required to integrate the experience and being completely ready with the old one before you're jumping into a new journey. So waiting every 3 weeks sounds like a good time for having meaningful journeys. Smile

I hope you have a great one!
 
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#43 Posted : 9/9/2014 5:15:38 AM

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Interesting. I've read may accounts of people consuming mesc the day after with the same effects. Swim can't speak from experience because swim only trips once or twice a month; always with a two weeks period in between. Swim usually feels that the "enlightenment" period after the trip last around a month or so. I definitely agree that it is rare and wouldn't want to waste it. Thanks for the heads up.

Swim did run into a problem with the gel cap method. He consumed 24 g (around 36 size o pills). At the three hour mark he ended up evacuating many pellets. Its was difficult to see whether the pill outer layer was intact. Anyway scaling up the pill method was a failure. Like you said, swim is afraid of wasting it by failing another extraction but its looking like the only option. Its hard to find 12 hrs of free time.
 
DansMaTete
#44 Posted : 9/21/2014 9:12:12 PM

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DansMaTete wrote:

- From 420g of T. Bridgestii dried chips i got 1,4g tan mescaline still with Kash's tek. So far, yield 0,33% but i'm still working on it. I kept the chips whole so after the extraction i decided to freeze&taw few time and process a new extraction to see if i can get more and raise my yield which is a bit disappointing. The chips didn't look very nice, the green part is very small compared to the very thick outer callous skin. Could be from a very old specimen or a sick one IMO.

So i got 200mg more from the freeze&taw. My final yield is 0,38% (1.6g from 420g) which is not wonderfull.

I took 1g from it and i did the additional purification (see Kash's tek) and i got 700mg of bright white mescaline fumarate. I can't say how my mescaline HCL was impure cause -as always- i managed to spill some of the solvent.
Now i'm the happy owner of 600mg of mescaline HCL and 700mg of mescaline fumarate. What to do, what to do with that ^^ !
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Morbidbystandard
#45 Posted : 9/22/2014 12:36:22 AM

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That's awesome man! Let us know how effective it is.

How do you avoid emulsion? Swim had a difficult time after adding the solvent to the basified water extract. Swim thinks he was too gentle with the mixing during this step trying to avoid emulsion, but it was still terrible. I wonder if low yields are because of ineffective mixing.
 
DansMaTete
#46 Posted : 9/22/2014 2:15:47 AM

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Luckily, emulsion never been a problem for me.
I did reduce too much my aqueous cacti extract and it was a bit too thick after i mix it with the NaOH+water mix so i added some water to make it more fluid. Then i put the toluene. First i was mixing carefully but pull after pull i start to shake gently and then i ended up shaking like crazy -i mean really like crazy- and after 15min on top of my fridge (warm and vibration) there were always separated layers.

Toluene and xylene don't seem to pull very well mescaline. I did 4x 200ml toluene pull from my 1,5L basic mix and it gave me 1000mg of mescaline. Then i did the same thing (4x 200ml) and it still gave me 400mg. After, i did 3x 250ml and i got less than 50mg so it stopped.

So, yes you need to mix well and lots of pulls. For emulsion, if it's not watery enough put some water and else you can try more NaOH and use some salt (NaCl). Did you boil very well the snot before filtration ?

I had no problem with snot probably because i used dried chips (not even crumbled) ,not powder nor fresh material, and i boiled it with a PC cooker.


Good luck with your cacti adventure fellow



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DansMaTete
#47 Posted : 11/28/2014 12:33:11 AM

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previously :

- 1 extraction fail (dud cactus)
- 1 light trip (guestimate @ 150mg) with raw PT powder
- Raise some seedling
- 2 Successful extractions
- 1 trip (@ 400mg of prolly not very pure mescaline)


New episode :



Seedling

From 80 seeds i had ~50 seedling but an hurricane hit my island and my friend who was babby sitting them didn't put them inside so a lot of them flew aways, i like to think they're still alive somewhere in the wild, growing like crazy Rolling eyes
The 25 survivors are growing gently, i have to build a shack with a roof to protect them from rain and hot sun to put them outside.

My new buddies
I spend few weeks in Perù where i spend most of my time surfing beautiful waves but i manage to trudge through mud in montains looking for cacti. I bought 2 cutting at a market (less than 2$ each) and i picked up a pup and a cutting from the same plant in the wild.
I planed to send to myself by mail the 2 cutting i bought but as the laddy at the post office told me it's forbidden (she had to check what was in the parcel), i had to come back with them in my luggage.
I dried the cutting i picked up and i will extract mescaline from it to know the potency of the pup.

Now, the 2 cutting and the pup are in dry perlite to let them root, is it alright ?



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DansMaTete
#48 Posted : 11/30/2014 10:51:23 PM

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In picture up there ^ you can see the pup in the small black pot. I picked it up in the peruvian montains with a cutting from the same plant. This cutting has been de-spined, i took the waxy skin off and kept only the really green flesh which i dried up, it wasn't easy because i was travelling but i managed to come back with 35g of dried chips from a healthy 30 cm cutting.

I wanted to extract mescaline from those chips to know the genetics qualities of pup (to knw if i grow it as magic or ornament) so i did start and everything was good, no probleme with snot, filtration was really easy and fast, the smell of simmering was better than usually, i even thought the taste would be better also so i tried it and ... it was the most bitter thing i ever put in my mouth, really a good sign Drool .
And i reduce all the water pulls but i forgot the filters i used so i simmer them 2 times to get all the magic from them. I added the water to the reduced pulls and i start to reduce a last time. I left the pan on the stove to go 5min away to a shop (hungry !) but it was close. So i went 10 min away to an other shop and i saw a friend who invite me to eat (it was good Smile )... and i came back 2 hours later to find a pan with charcoal inside...

So i just come here to cry Crying or very sad Crying or very sad Crying or very sad and say mea culpa to the psychedelic world!



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Morbidbystandard
#49 Posted : 12/13/2014 4:30:24 AM

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OH NO! Sorry to hear of the destruction. I found a local source of "good" cacti cuttings. Got 2 torch but I think one of them is true Pedro. Rooted them and planing to plant them next spring. I had something interesting happen. My "ornamental" Pedro started showing signs of being true Pedro after planting into the ground. Big grin I still need to do more testing. Swim finished a first pull with the STB method and it looks good but I've been too busy to test.
 
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#50 Posted : 12/16/2014 1:14:31 PM

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Does the "chill" effect you talk about mean you get a cold chill as in shivering?


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Swim's successful sp extraction was full spectrum as the yield was too low to warrant cleaning the extract. The effects were very interesting however. Visuals were much like mushrooms except for there being a lack of tracers. The body high had a really strange set of chills that seemed to start at the head and travel down the back and shoulders. As the chills moved they turned into a tickle that released a wave of euphoria. Its easy to understand why people describe it as "candy flipping" or MDMA and LSD. Swim felt it was more like MDMA and mushrooms. Very pleasant. Swim read over his lab notes to discover that the only successful extraction was never boiled down to reduce the volume of solution. Maybe heat did play a role in the breaking down of the actives. Anyhow it was time to start with a new source.

Swim used 28g of torch and decided to test the cacti before wasting any time on an extraction. He packed 24 0 size gel caps resulting in 15g total weight. He swallowed 10g and hoped the cacti wasn't 5%. 1 hour latter nothing happened so he took the other 5g. 2 hours after the first dose he was ready to make another batch but it was getting late so he decided to wait until the next day to increase the dose. 3 hours after the first dose it was on! Swim felt the body high of LSD with the visuals of mushrooms but again lacking tracers. The "chill" effect was not present and swim was more fearful like the roller coaster that LSD can be. 12 hours after the first dose he back to base line and could finally sleep. Swim has a 1/4 pound but has not carried out the extraction yet.

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DansMaTete
#51 Posted : 2/23/2015 11:34:28 PM

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previously :

- 1 extraction fail (dud cactus)
- 1 light trip (guestimate @ 150mg) with raw PT powder
- Raise some seedling
- 2 Successful extractions
- 1 trip (@ 400mg of prolly not very pure mescaline)
- 3 cuttings rooted (brought them back from PerùPleased


New episode :


For New Year's Eve, i shared the mescaline i had with some friends and an another friend shared his MDMA with us so i end up with [~200mg mescaline + ~150mg MDMA] and i've been surprised by the trip. Not much energy and difficulties for communication, in fact i absolutly didn't recognize the MDMA effect and the mescaline dose was very small. It was a good MDMA as the others liked it and i had no tolerance (last time was 2 years ago for MDMA and 4 month for mescaline).
My question is : is there a kind of synergy (or the opposite) with those molecules ? I don't think so and it could come from me as sometimes i don't 'let it go' and miss the trip (it happened few times back in the days). I'm just curious if someone has experience with this combo.


One of the cutting i brought back from Perù was rotting (i suspected but i fact i don't think it was Embarrased ) so i cut ~7cm of it, let it dry and process and extraction to know the potency.
Again, i burned a part of it during reduction step (don't sandpaper your surfboard when you're boiling down Mad ) and i don't know if i lost some magic but numbers are : 220g fresh => 18g dry => ~200mg mescaline => yield ~1%. At least, i know this cactus is a potent one, just need to wait 1 or 2 years ^^.


The seedlings are growing slowly (6 months old), should i start to give them fertilizer ? If yes, which one : cactus fertilizer or one with more nitrogene ?

(Bic lighter is a small one)


Oh, here is a thread about a disturbing black spot on one of the cutting. If someone can help...

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