Hello there,

SWIM just read Arcologist's beautifully discovered method for separating NMT from DMT by adding dry ice to the 'pulled' organic xylene solvent layer from an A/B extraction of Acacia Confusa. It was awesome.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=48737

SWIM was just wondering if anybody knew if NMT carbamate was soluble in water, or some kind of aqueous solution. SWIM figured that after precipitating the NMT carbamate out of the xylene layer, adding an aqueous layer into the same vessel (like a separatory funnel) would dissolve the carbamate and suck it out from the xylene layer, thus pushing the equilibrium of the reaction of the NMT and dry ice towards the product of NMT carbamate. Then, instead of filtering out the precipitate, SWIM could just get rid of the aqueous layer and apply more dry ice to the vessel, or ideally, a separatory funnel.

Swim is fairy new, so please let me know if I am being redundant to a previous post. I tried looking, but could not find anything. ThankS!

Dang... I just realized that I probably should've put this in the preparations section...

i am fairly confident that carbamate salts would be soluble in water.
i asked rOm and he said the same.

neither of us are positive, but i would say the chances it is efficacious would be pretty high

I didn't have much success dissolving the carbamate in plain water. I could only get it to dissolve in vinegar, where it bubbles and gives off CO2(?) I think. Even with vinegar it takes a few hours for it all to react and go into solution.

I can't see what this proposed method would gain over just pouring off the DMT-rich xylene. The carbamate is extremely sticky, like taffy, and sticks to everything, so it's really easy to decant from. Afterwards you can recover any residual xylene as a thin layer on top of the vinegar/nmt.

good to know.
would it be safe to assume this would convert it to NMT acetate??

Hmm... interesting... Not too sure about the acetate question, but I was thinking that if there were any DMT stuck inside of the NMT precipitate, that dissolving the carbamate in an aqueous solution in the same vessel as the xylene would help free up those trapped DMT molecules and drive them into the nonpolar layer, but I'd imagine that the amount of DMT stuck in the precipitate would be negligible. Thanks for the data on the physical properties of NMT thought!

i don't think any dmt should precipitate in xylene.

perhaps in naphtha, but i don't think you can even freeze precipitate with aromatics

dry ice versus mini a/b?
that is the question, lol

In my experience, there can be a lot of dmt left in the ''nmt carbmate'' precip. I've done up to 5 pulls from the precip with hot naphtha and still gotten some dmt from it