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DMT Freebase + Caapi or Syrian Rue? Options
 
Synaesthesia
#1 Posted : 12/7/2014 3:14:44 AM

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I am preparing for my first Aya/pharmahuasca trip, and could use some recommendations. I tried to search specifically for these questions, but came up empty handed. Please excuse me if I missed something. Smile
(I am well experienced with vaporized DMT)

I hope to mix DMT freebase with a brew of either Caapi or Syrian Rue. Would this be recommended, or is there a better alternative? (I still have some powdered Mimosa on hand)

If the DMT is freebase, and the RIMA is a brew, would this be considered Pharmahuasca or Ayahuasca?

Would the recommended dosage of such a concoction be a hybrid of Caapi (or Syrian Rue) from Ayahuasca and DMT from Pharmahuasca? IE
Caapi: light 50g, moderate 100g, strong 150g
Syrian Rue: light 2g, moderate 3g, strong 4g
DMT Freebase: light 20-50mg, moderate 50-100mg, strong 100-150mg

Would Caapi or Syrian Rue go better with freebase DMT?

Thanks for your time! Smile
 

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#2 Posted : 12/7/2014 3:32:06 AM

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Brews are acidic already, so dissolving freebase into them converts the spice into the salt of whatever acid is present in the brew (most likely tannate).
You could convert your dmt to fumarate salts if you'd like because it seems to be easier on the stomache & digestive tract than other salts (i've heard this but never tested the theory)
I think this is a hybrid between aya & pharma. Not sure what to call it.
Dosage wise the caapi part all depends on preference. If yout just looking to activate the dmt, use less, if you'd like a more traditional aya style trip, use more.
The dosage of dmt can vary wildly, but 50mg is a good starting point.
With enough vine 50mg can be either mild or strong. Starting at that dosage will allow you yo figure out whether it's too much or you prefer more.

Potency of your vine brew can vary too, i'd say get an idea of how potent your harmala brew is first just so you have an idea how much is a comfortable dosage for you & how strongly you want the harmalas to effect your trip.
more dmt & less harmalas is closer to a stretched out smoked dose than an aya experience & vice versa.
 
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#3 Posted : 12/8/2014 12:44:07 AM

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Thanks concombres for shedding some light. From what I gather:
Dissolving the DMT freebase would work just fine, but first converting to DMT furmate may be preferred because it's easier to digest?

Anyone have any insight on Caapi + DMT Freebase vs Syrian Rue + DMT Freebase?
Would I be better off just making a traditional brew of RIMA plant material + DMT plant material?

Thanks again. Cool
 
maranello551
#4 Posted : 10/15/2016 5:05:41 PM
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Synaesthesia wrote:

Anyone have any insight on Caapi + DMT Freebase vs Syrian Rue + DMT Freebase?


Bump
 
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#5 Posted : 10/15/2016 5:06:53 PM
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Synaesthesia wrote:
but first converting to DMT furmate may be preferred because it's easier to digest?


Doubt it. Your brew should just convert the freebase to dmt tannate (or acetate if brewed with vinegar), right?
 
 
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