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JustCurious.
#1 Posted : 12/2/2014 11:56:48 PM

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Hey Everyone,

Looking to do a first extract using marsofolds tek. It seems simple and I have seen it recommended as an easy way to begin with. I am a chemistry student and I should be able to get my head round it quite easily, I've done similar things before it looks pretty basic.

Is marsofolds tek still a good choice for a beginner ?
 

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#2 Posted : 12/3/2014 4:15:02 AM

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Marsofolds working wonderfully for me and it was my first. Now instead of going to freebase and using naphtha, I use xylene and do a FASA to get a more full spectrum alkaloid that's in salt form so it stores much better than freebase, but if you want a smoalkable product right away just following the tek as is. Smile
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#3 Posted : 12/3/2014 6:53:08 AM
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Yes, very easy. Just follow the steps (except for the ammonia wash/etc at the end). First tek id ever done back when I first joined this site.

Solid tek, got good yields.

Anymore, I just do a STB and leave the xtals as is and smoke; and STB is even simpler than an A/B (Marsofold Tek).

But yeah, best wishes; hope everything proceeds smoothly. Very happy
 
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#4 Posted : 12/3/2014 9:00:20 AM

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Thanks for the advice ! Just contemplating which solvent to use; i'm leaning towards hexane at the moment. I'm from the UK, we don't have the naptha that everyone seems to use in america. Any of you got any better ideas ? How were you yields ?
 
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JustCurious. wrote:
Thanks for the advice ! Just contemplating which solvent to use; i'm leaning towards hexane at the moment. I'm from the UK, we don't have the naptha that everyone seems to use in america. Any of you got any better ideas ? How were you yields ?


Do you guys have shellite ? Also take a Look at Cybs hybred salt tek , super easy , clean and quick , especially if you've got finely powdered bark !
 
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#6 Posted : 12/3/2014 9:15:51 AM

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If you have distillation equipment, chloroform is about the best solvent you could extract with. Hexane is better for refinement and cleaning up your extract.
 
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#7 Posted : 12/3/2014 9:36:26 AM

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1ce wrote:
If you have distillation equipment, chloroform is about the best solvent you could extract with. Hexane is better for refinement and cleaning up your extract.


Yeah I have used hexane as a recrystallization solvent many times before, so that makes sense. I do not have distillation equipment at the moment, but I have been thinking about this and if all goes well the first couple of times I may well invest in some.

So,1ce, what is it that you recommend for the extraction ? I have plenty of Ronsonol lighter fluid if that would work.

And no, we don't have shellite over here which is disappointing.
 
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#8 Posted : 12/3/2014 9:49:32 AM

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I've heard of people using ronsonal before. Check the MSDS to see if it contains anything other than petroleum distilates. Rust inhibitors may often be removed, sometimes they use acids that will completely interfere with a basic solution. Is DCM (methylene dichloride) easily obtainable?

That also works for a very thorough extraction.
 
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#9 Posted : 12/3/2014 9:54:03 AM

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JustCurious. wrote:
I have plenty of Ronsonol lighter fluid if that would work.

Ronsonol works just fine.
After the freeze precip...you can reuse it...so don't throw it out. Thumbs up

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#10 Posted : 12/3/2014 10:02:00 AM

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cyb wrote:
JustCurious. wrote:
I have plenty of Ronsonol lighter fluid if that would work.

Ronsonol works just fine.
After the freeze precip...you can reuse it...so don't throw it out. Thumbs up

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That's good to know, thank's for sharing cyb.
 
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#11 Posted : 12/3/2014 10:14:10 AM

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cyb wrote:
JustCurious. wrote:
I have plenty of Ronsonol lighter fluid if that would work.

Ronsonol works just fine.
After the freeze precip...you can reuse it...so don't throw it out. Thumbs up

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Thanks cyb, appreciate the quick replies here; really helpful. So is ronsonol good for both extraction and refinement or should I try something else maybe hexane ? I'm thinking of using recrystallization since I'm pretty familiar with the technique. Personally I thought hexane would be better as it should have a lower boiling point and is supposedly very selective and leaves most unwanted material undissolved.
 
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#12 Posted : 12/3/2014 10:35:33 AM

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JustCurious. wrote:
So is ronsonol good for both extraction and refinement or should I try something else maybe hexane ?

If you can get Heptane...it's preferable...but if you just want some spice...don't over complicate things and just use what is readily available.
You can extract with what's in the cupboard or a couple of $ at the shops. (white vinegar/salt/lye/lighter fluid/water...done)
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#13 Posted : 12/3/2014 10:38:51 AM

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Hexane IS better at it, you can use both. Just add boiling hexane to your DMT, dissolve completely using as little as possible, and let it sit at room temp for a few hours with a lid over it. Then slowly cool it. You can rush it to the freezer but the outcome is never the same.
 
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#14 Posted : 12/3/2014 10:44:32 AM

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cyb wrote:
JustCurious. wrote:
So is ronsonol good for both extraction and refinement or should I try something else maybe hexane ?

If you can get Heptane...it's preferable...but if you just want some spice...don't over complicate things and just use what is readily available.
You can extract with what's in the cupboard or a couple of $ at the shops. (white vinegar/salt/lye/lighter fluid/water...done)


Good advice cyb, I'll take your word for it.

And thanks once again 1ce, I will use hexane for the refinement. I should be going within a week or so, I'll let everyone know the results. If I have any other queries about the tek I'll post them here.

Once again, thanks for all your help !
 
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JustCurious. wrote:
Thanks for the advice ! Just contemplating which solvent to use; i'm leaning towards hexane at the moment. I'm from the UK, we don't have the naptha that everyone seems to use in america. Any of you got any better ideas ? How were you yields ?


Ronsonol works great, i recently did an aciacian pretty much following marsofolds tek, everything seemed to be going great and upon freezing got lots of crystals, but upon drying they will dissolve back into a goo if you dont defat.
 
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#16 Posted : 12/3/2014 8:50:37 PM

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but upon drying they will dissolve back into a goo if you dont defat.

It has to be said that this issue only arises sometimes with ACRB extracts with high NMT/Oil content...not so with MHRB.
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#17 Posted : 12/3/2014 9:11:51 PM

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Depending on your solvent choi e you can get fat to come over with mhrb. I suggest room temperzture exrractions with slightly warmed solvent with mhrb.
 
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JustCurious. wrote:
Hey Everyone,

Looking to do a first extract using marsofolds tek. It seems simple and I have seen it recommended as an easy way to begin with. I am a chemistry student and I should be able to get my head round it quite easily, I've done similar things before it looks pretty basic.

Is marsofolds tek still a good choice for a beginner ?


are you using mimosa or acacia?
 
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#19 Posted : 12/3/2014 10:26:40 PM

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tydel24 wrote:
JustCurious. wrote:
Hey Everyone,

Looking to do a first extract using marsofolds tek. It seems simple and I have seen it recommended as an easy way to begin with. I am a chemistry student and I should be able to get my head round it quite easily, I've done similar things before it looks pretty basic.

Is marsofolds tek still a good choice for a beginner ?


are you using mimosa or acacia?


Hey,

I'm definitely using mimosa. I don't really know why anyone uses anything else, I can't say I've looked into anything other than MHRB to be honest. Is there any pro's to using anything else ?
 
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#20 Posted : 12/3/2014 10:33:18 PM

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1ce wrote:
Depending on your solvent choi e you can get fat to come over with mhrb. I suggest room temperzture exrractions with slightly warmed solvent with mhrb.


A crockpot is still okay for marsofolds tek though, right ?
 
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