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Peppermint oil boils at 93 degrees C! Options
 
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#1 Posted : 11/27/2014 2:12:36 AM
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Peppermint oil boils at 93 degrees C!
This is great news, because it means that it could be used to extract dmt and evaporated and redistilled. It could also be used to extract hash oil. Other possible uses, sense its non-polar, may include passiflora full spectrum extraction, salvia divinorum extraction, and artemisia annua extraction (for malaria treatment).

Untested example teks:
Dmt/5-meo-dmt:

Make a concentrated tea.

Add sodium carbonate to basify.

Pull with peppermint oil.

Separate the peppermint oil from the tea.

Evaporate/Redistill the peppermint oil for reuse yielding dmt/5-meo-dmt.

Hash oil:

Soak buds or trim in peppermint oil.

Strain and redistill for reuse yielding hash oil.

I haven't tried this yet but I plan to try it. Feel free to try it first if you want. Thanks for reading this exciting news.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/27/2014 2:25:55 AM
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that peppermint oil is made by using steam distillation. In other words, you boil the fresh peppermint leaves while condensing the steam back into liquid form which will be two layers. The top layer will be peppermint oil, and the bottom layer will be water. Then the peppermint oil is separated from the water.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/27/2014 8:10:21 AM

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Smile Have you tried it? How well does it evap? Does it leave a flavour on the product? Thumbs up

edit: various websites give different boiling points for peppermint oil and there is a huge variety of peppermint cultivars (typically not specified)
 
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#4 Posted : 11/27/2014 9:13:08 PM

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I'm not sure if it helps too much but my uncles friend just did an experiment with peppermint oil.
Two identical solutions were made of LSA + 95% ethanol + tartaric acid, but one had peppermint oil added in.
They were left to evaporate.
The one without pepoil formed beautiful clear crystal patterns and the one with pepoil didn't form any kind of structure and was kind of like half tar half crystal that he rolled into a little brown nugget.
The pepoil did not seem to evap cleanly at all.
Also trying to take the nugget sublingually caused extreme burning instantly indicating that it does leave behind quite a bit of flavor.

Things could potentially be different though with other applications. The salting may have kept it from evaping or something.

I think the bigger problem would be that pepoil would be EXTREMELY expensive to use as a solvent unless you can very efficiently distill it to get it back.
 
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But pep oil IS fantastic at alleviating a toothache
 
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#6 Posted : 11/28/2014 2:55:01 AM
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Heres a link to the page that says peppermint oil boils at 93 degrees C:
http://www.onboces.org/safety/msds/s/Scholar%20Chemical/Peppermint_Oil_513.00.pdf
My plan is to grow the peppermint to eliminate the cost. Then distill the oil. Then use it to extract dmt/hash oil. Then evaporate and redistill the peppermint oil by putting it in a closed glass jar with a copper tube connecting the top of the jar to a condensation chamber. The jar is boiled in water to make the oil boil inside the jar. The oil will evaporate from the jar and condense in the condensation chamber. The extract will be dry and stuck to the bottom of the inside of the jar. It can then be stored in the jar and spooned out one dose at a time with a metal stick for doing dabs. Or it can be boiled down with ayahuasca leaves to make changa.

First I'll grow lots of peppermint and phalaris grass. Then I'll try this tek.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/28/2014 3:34:10 AM

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Sounds like a cool idea.
Acetaldehyde (for theoretical LSH) boils even lower at 20c which makes it seem almost impossible that a conversion could happen. It was put into a solution with acid to hopefully be salted before it could evap. But still no significant effects were found.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/28/2014 3:48:47 AM
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Intezam wrote:
Smile Have you tried it? How well does it evap? Does it leave a flavour on the product? Thumbs up

edit: various websites give different boiling points for peppermint oil and there is a huge variety of peppermint cultivars (typically not specified)


I believe this link is referring to the temperature at which to set your vaporizer when vaporizing peppermint leaves. It does not specify the boiling point of peppermint oil.

Peppermint oil is distilled by steam distillation. This means that it will evaporate at the temperature of steam at least when mixed with steam. An extract made in this way may need to be treated with steam to make the peppermint flavor go away.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/28/2014 3:52:12 AM

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There's no melting point listed, I wonder if you could extract your DMT into the oil and then freeze-precip it out.
"There are many paths up the same mountain."

 
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peace and love wrote:
My plan is to grow the peppermint to eliminate the cost. Then distill the oil.

Wut? These two sentences seem contradictory.
Have you considered the cost and effort of growing a good portion of an acre of peppermint, building a hundred gallon still, and repeatedly fueling it?

Peppermint oil is chemically reactive, the primary constituents are ketones.

Menthofuran often occurs in notable concentration and this potentially fatal liver toxin is removed by fractional distillation before peppermint oil is graded as legal for human use.

If neighbors can mistake an ill kept cat box for a meth lab, or an indian curry kitchen as a terrorism attack, what might they make of a suffocating plume of peppermint fog?

This idea is dripping with failure warnings Wink
 
 
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