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pathosinvalid
#1 Posted : 11/25/2014 7:23:04 PM

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Hellow guys. Couldn't really find what I was looking for on the forums so im making a post myself.

SWIM recently decided to perhaps try an LSA extraction using Hawaiian seeds. The TEK is pretty straight forward and all, and calls for 100 seeds. The final result (According with pictures from OP) Is about a small vial worth. Now, how do I properly dose this? It gives a chart with effects. such as 15 seeds is threshold (or something like that) etc. With this in hand, how would I put a good amount on blotter? I have a few really cool blotter sheets ready to be contaminated with joy. Should I use a little eye dropper and just drop a few drops on each tab? Or should I soak the sheet? How long if so? Tips? Thanks guys
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SnozzleBerry
#2 Posted : 11/25/2014 8:11:15 PM

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Why do you want to put this on blotter?
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pathosinvalid
#3 Posted : 11/25/2014 8:48:41 PM

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Just easier transportation wise for me, idk. Blotter just seems like the way to go. Plus, I just like the value of blotter. Doing something with fantastic and brilliant art always makes me feel like im doing something beautiful, in a sense. Always been a fan of blotter, not too much for liquid or powder. Unless its our friend Dimitri of course Big grin
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SnozzleBerry
#4 Posted : 11/25/2014 8:59:11 PM

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Discussing instructions for laying blotter for compounds that are not LSD makes me very uncomfortable.
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pathosinvalid
#5 Posted : 11/25/2014 9:11:58 PM

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Lool ikik. Well I do assure you that its not intended to be a ruse to anyone. I'm not a seller. I don't like the idea of taking liquid, blotter is just more suitable to my liking.
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#6 Posted : 11/25/2014 9:32:50 PM

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pathosinvalid wrote:
Now, how do I properly dose this? such as 15 seeds is threshold (or something like that) etc. With this in hand, how would I put a good amount on blotter? I have a few really cool blotter sheets ready to be contaminated with joy. Should I use a little eye dropper and just drop a few drops on each tab? Or should I soak the sheet? How long if so? Tips? Thanks guys


15 seeds per dose will more than likely force to you purge for a while, than blast you into a long LSD-like trip... This dosage goes past the recommendations for LSA containing plants, especially HBWR.. as it is very concentrated in this compound. I see that you want to avoid certain aspects to get a clean version so to speak, but unfortunately LSA is quite unstable as it is. I recommend 5-10 seeds to start. Take some preparation to hand, grind the seeds up finely, place the seeds in cool water and take it and see.

Extractions differ, but you could let the fine seeds sit in water for about 10 hours, stir gently and just take the liquid form. I personally have always enjoyed just eating the seeds with water, maybe fruit and definitely some ganja.

Just my 2 cents..
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pathosinvalid
#7 Posted : 11/25/2014 10:28:35 PM

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so i should put 5 seeds worth of liquid on each blotter then? (Obviously, if i wanted a very potent hit)
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#8 Posted : 11/25/2014 10:38:25 PM

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I've never used LSA on blotter.. nor do I know or have read anything of that nature. It could be dangerous. 5 seeds comprises a moderate dose, whereas 8-10 is usually sufficient for a strong experience. However, that changes when you add blotter in the mix. I seriously recommend a professional chemists opinion on the matter. Otherwise, stick to what we already know. Besides, wouldn't it be wiser to approach this plant with preps and extractions that we already know work? The forum has a lot to say.

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#9 Posted : 11/25/2014 11:46:43 PM

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Blotter is a bad idea for LSA.
If you can get a semi pure salt form you might try dissolving it in minimal amount of alcohol and pouring on the paper to evap. I have wanted to try this myself but I have a feeling it might not work so well unless it is extremely concentrated. In theory it would work if you used the minimal amount of alcohol to dissolve it and used the minimum amount of acid to salt the freebase since lsa should be active in just a couple mgs.

What kind of extraction are you using? The dosage depends heavily on the extraction method.
An a/b extraction is very inefficient and even 20 seeds is not all that strong.
But for a simple water extraction 20 seeds is too much.

If you are doing an a/b then I would take your resulting freebase and mix it with just enough drinkable ethanol or IPA (ethanol preferred) to dissolve it then put in around 4% tartaric acid (just a pinch goes a long way) and evap.
This results in a crystal that is easy to handle and dose out and is much more stable.

 
 
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