SWIM been reading and hearing a cube is a cube, is a cube; and I'm just not very experienced with different species and SWIM would like to know what other people's thought on the matter is.

This has to be one of the least helpful responses that could possible be offered. You took four massive paragraphs to say nothing.

No glass of water is the same glass of water. So what? As long as it's a glass of "normal" water (i.e. not polluted), one can understand that any glass of water will give a similar effect when drunk: hydration.

The question was not posed as a philosophical inquiry...this isn't about whether or not you can ever set foot in the same river twice. This is clearly about the pragmatic effects of ingesting cubensis.

What is the point of such an overblown response? Not only does it not answer the question, but it essentially contests that we can never know anything in a practical sense, which is a rather tenuous position.

I know I'm being blunt, but I can no longer tolerate this kind of garbage. Knock it off.

In short, generally speaking, cubensis mushrooms (especially from multispore) can vary dramatically in potency from flush to flush, and even between fruits in a given flush. Generally speaking, most cubensis will give similar effects, although potency may vary as well as other side effects (such as bodyload). The difference from one "strain" of cubes to another will generally be less significant that the differences between cubes and specimens of other species, e.g. pan cyans, ps cyans, etc.

I'm at a loss for how your initial post does anything for the OP.

Can you explain?

It seems non-sequiturial to me.

From my perspective, it's akin to me asking you "Is there a difference between rain and snow" and you replying "Well, see, you'd have to understand the intermolecular forces of hydrogen and oxygen in order to really get a handle on the true meaning of that question. Then of course there's the fact that the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plains. And honestly, the real question is, 'Is water really wet?' Until we can straighten all of these things out, there's not really a good way to get a handle on what the difference is between rain and snow."

I'm not trying to be mean...this is a slight caricature of how I perceived it...but I'm trying to exaggerate it slightly to highlight how it reads to me.

Taxonomy terms, yes. Different growing conditions and habitats will allow for adaptation and mutation. If new strains that hold a certain set of characteristic can be isolated, then the strain is still A cubensis.... it just hold some different genetic modifications. the DNA sequencing still leads back to cubensis.

Thanks for posting that...I'll read it tonight

Also thanks for bearing with me and my reaction(s), I appreciate it.

Well i've ate some cubes weak in psilocybin content. And i've had a certain bunch that produced similar kinds of psychedelic hallucinations and frantic ringing noises. Each trip on those had a really dark vibe and some hallucinations have been pretty damn ugly. It's like clockwork for this strain, they where also incredibly potent. In higher doses however, which (I theorize) was probably due to the psilocybin overruling stray alkaloids there was no notable difference from this strain compared to others. Hallucinations where clearly contents of my psyche and could have been seen on LSD,DMT or any other psychedelic I have tried. Also, there's a world of difference between truffles and mushrooms.

So based on my experience, I think there's more to it than just psilocybin content. I personally believe with all my heart that mushrooms grow different personalities based on a combination of environmental conditions and DNA.

I think the whole strain argument stems from capitalism. In reality, a multispore syringe is subject to many conditions, and many possible outcomes. Many vendors sell the sensationalism of "different strains" in their MULTISPORE SYRINGES. I DO believe a "strain" can be isolated via cloning, but not through collection of multispore from a fruit that was a product of a multispore - though it may carry some of the characteristics of the original fruit collected. But it's still a member of the psilocybe cubensis group.

Just as some people are tall or short, or dark or light, mushrooms can also vary in a appearance and alk content, but still belong to the same species.

Some "strains," like PE, have been bred so selectively, that even their spores(if produced) will likely carry strong PE genetics. But it's still a cube.

I do think that each batch has it's own "uniqueness," though.

aside from penis envy, yes.

A cube is a cube. Agar can be used to change looks and chemical percentages though.

Gotta love the penis . On subject, there are very small differences between all cubensis 'strains' (marketing ploy). Like homo sapiens, all are of the same species, with small differences that distinguish us from one another. Much of the characteristics a fruit will possess (incl. potency), will 90% of the time come down to grow parameters.

My personal favourite to work with is PE. Through my experience, and of close friends, we all agree that it is about 1.5x more potent than the average cube. Part of me believes that this is because of the longer than average colonization, and consolidation times before fruiting that PE is known for.

A cube is a cube... but a cube is quite often an octagon.

In terms of potency (especially from multispore inoculation) they can vary by quite a bit IME.

A cube is a cube in the same sense that a human is a human.

We all look different and come from different parts of the planet, but we can reproduce with each other no matter how we look.

You can't mix a cube with azures or cyans.

So in a way, yes, a cube is a cube. But at the same time there will be some differences.

It's strange.... i was thinking of comparing mushrooms with humans too.
They possess different genetic characteristics, kind of like people do.
Mushrooms are actually closer to animals than plants in the evolution chain.

i wonder what exactly this print someone gave me is called sub-cubensis ?

^OP. I actually undertook answering this question over the summer--or at least I tried. Since SWIM is a gardner of cubes, he decided that having access to 6-10 varieties of cube would provide adequate material to base my experiments.

Like you, he felt like all of his trips had been different, and SWIM thought that this must be because the mushroom varieties were different. But the saying of "a cube is a cube is a cube" was floating around out there, so I wanted to disprove it.

So SWIM set up experiments (note that my name is the Scientific Method) to do all testing on SWIM as the subject (removes variables of having other subjects--also removes some responsibility of giving others cubes). I would do repeated doses. So for example, SWIM would start with PES Hawaiian and 5grams. Then SWIM would write up a trip report and two weeks later repeat the experiment and compare results.

I forgot to say that all of SWIM's experiments were set up as silent darkness trips to reduce outside variables.

SWIM would then change and do the 5 gram experiments with Columbian and then Albino A+ and so on and so fourth.

After 2 months of conducting these experiments, I walked away with the belief that "a cube is indeed a cube is indeed a cube." I think that the variables that affect each trip making them different are largely internal.

I do however have reason to believe that set setting, dry vs. wet cubes, and personal characteristics that are not quantifiable have a tremendous affect on the trip. I also believe that Albino and Penis Envy varieties have some added intensity--Penis Envys were always very soft and happy and Albino A+ are always intense--kind of like acidy.

So that's what I've learned.