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angelmaria
#1 Posted : 10/26/2014 11:47:25 PM
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I enjoy a good pharma trip every now and then and I've been tripping on pharma for over six years - I average one trip every six weeks or so and besides mescaline, I don't take any other drugs. It's kind of interesting how my body has responded to it though. I always take 200mg of harmalas followed by freebase DMT about 30 minutes after. In the beginning, 125mg of DMT would usually bring me to near breakthrough territory where I'd slip in and out of the breakthrough during the peak. My trips usually last four or five hours.

I had a few tough trips and gradually lowered my DMT dosage. Funny, lowering the dosage had no impact on the intensity of my trips. I'd take 100mg and it was exactly as 125mg used to be. I'd take 90mg and it felt like 125mg, I'd take 80mg and still the same. I'd still have breakthrough moments! The first few years that I tripped there was a definite difference when I did these lower dosages, but I guess I developed increase sensitivity and reverse tolerance. I'm down to about 65mg per pharma trip and it is my sweet spot - it's wild, beautiful, deep, philosophical, but not jarring or universe shattering.

Anyway, my questions is about redosing. At what point should I redose to extend the experience? After four hours? 50mg or 100mg of harmalas? How much is too much MAOI for one day. What about DMT dosage? I wonder if I just took 50mg of freebase DMT after hour four with no MAOI, would the residual MAOI's let me trip? Any insights or suggestions?
 

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yopoagogo
#2 Posted : 11/4/2014 12:12:07 PM
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It is said to have a reverse tolerance but it might even be your brain wiring previous experiences into memory so that even a lower dose seems like it is stronger because your memory of previous experiences are brought up once the familiarity of a trip presents itself again. Just like when you see an old friend and only then do the memories become more vivid.

I am with you on sub breakthrough doses, much easier to integrate and comprehend. To your question I would say that most people like to take a second dose just before peaking or during the peak. Harmala only last 3-5 hours before it metabolizes...
 
angelmaria
#3 Posted : 11/18/2014 8:45:01 PM
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Interesting insight, yopoagogo. I've imprinted the experiences that I only need a bit to refresh the headspace.

If I take 200mg of harmalas to begin with, I wonder how much I should use for that redose. I was thinking 50mg of harmala and 40mg of DMT.

Any thoughts?
 
universecannon
#4 Posted : 11/18/2014 9:47:35 PM



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I've noticed a heavy sensitivity increase/reverse tolerance of some sort as well, but at the same time the states got more functional and easier to deal with physically and mentally. After working with pharma/aya/rue quite often, taking harmalas daily for a time, and radically changing my diet to one of mostly raw plant foods I noticed that my pharma dosage eventually was cut in about half and still producing virtually the same effects as before. This all was within about a 2 year period. I was taking a lot of melatonin as well, which seems to act like a kind of mind lubricant and enhances the effects of harmalas and DMT in a way (and gets metabolized into at least one MAOI, pinoline, itself).

For redosing, it's really up to you and depends how deep you go, how much you took of each originally, and how many hours ago. My trips with can sometimes last to the 12 hour mark if a solid dose of harmalas/vine/or rue is involved, so I usually don't redose. I just smoke a bit of changa if need be.

If the DMT feels mostly metabolized but the harmalas are still going, then maybe just try 50mg harmalas with some more DMT. Those amounts you suggested in your last post sound like a good place to start. Smile



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