"One last comment. During one of his talks (I wish I could remember which), Terence does go into this horrible trip he experienced, but he never gave any inclination that this was the last time he did mushrooms (so it may not have been that exact trip). He actually talked about it more from Kat's perspective, that at a certain time during this trip they were outside looking up at the sky and Kat started to become psychically oppressed by what she had described at the time as insectoid beings. Terence ended up dumping a huge vat of water on her to try and snap her out of it, but no matter what he tried it was just an awful night. He didn't go into at all what he had experienced, but he so rarely discussed having negative experiences I had logged this one in my memory bank and after hearing the talk I started wondering if this was the trip that ended all trips for him."

That trip was written about in true hallucinations, whcih was published in 93-94 I think?..my copy is in storage so I dont know..anyway that trip seemed it was more about kat having some trouble than Terrence..could be though.

He also talked before about a time where he mixed mushrooms and ayahuasca and could not remember anything for more than a few seconds or something like that..

BTW, I prefer to listen to Dennis talk about Terrence and not Bruce. Dunno why just something about it gets annoying and boring..so this podcast is sort of hard to listen to at the start. I like his videos he is putting together though.

Yeah the trip with Kat was where she felt as though she was turning into a cloud..since the more she looked at the inside of this insectoid space ship she was in the more she understood- and the more the beings hostily beamed at her for it, or whatever. She eventually passed out completely and thats when terence said he picked her up and ran to get some water to dump on her, as she reportedly watched it all while out of body from above. Definitely doesn't sound like that was the whammy trip this podcast was talking about though

More likely could of been the one jamie talked about, where he mixed aya with mushrooms and it was like a little pacman going through his memories and just chomping everything up in a very unpleasant way for hours and hours..or something. He mentioned how there was a white padded room somewhere waiting for him if he didn't pull out of that one. Who knows really which trip it was..we probably never even heard of it. I'm sure we'll get a bit of perspective on all this in a few months once brotherhood of the screaming abyss is out

That's my mistake then, I'm sure Terence and Kat tripped many, many times together; that was just the only one I had ever heard about while they were on the island.

What's this trip about mixing aya and mushrooms? I actually haven't heard about this. Does he mention it in one of his talks or is it in one of his books?

Then consider yourself ignored

Neo said it best actually; "It's because I choose to." It makes me happy to think like this, so there is nothing wrong with that. No one needs to agree with me

May I please ask, where the books such as ' True Hallucinations ' genuine books?.


Why are people against Terrence Mckenna?.

Well, in one of the books, it was in 1989 or afterwards that he had a really bad trip.

also, after 89 he only published a 2 books.


and well, the divorce too. that would have effected him.

I'm unsure if this is the correct place for this (Is it worth a new topic?).

Has anybody else had a feeling recently, that maybe we are currently in the omega point? I have only just discovered Novelty Theory as proclaimed by Terence so this is little more than a curious pondering.

A curious pondering that lead me here (to the nexus), absorbing all the information available (particularly nen888 and co in the acacia Information thread (bows head graciousely))

While the thread passes through (in linear time (as observed)) the date in which was announced by Terence, I noticed (with great naivety) that something within the content was subtly different (lack of a better word).

The first:
Post #199 2011


This paragraph in particular sang out to me. I saw a distribution map engorged with complexity and rennaisancical enlightenment under a great wide sky, the trees are beginning their final stage of metamorphosis and are anticipating a great binding together on the final frontiers of human endeavour..
What if Terence was somewhat right with the date (blasphemy I know) but completely wrong about the circumstances of "change"?
I don't know about the fellow nexians here but it feels to me as if all points are leading to all other points, its just a factor of our personal ability to resolute a fractional portion of the whole. Some have higher resolutions, others have lower.

For me he is at least favorite modern philosopher for his novel theories. I'm not sure why some people hate him. Maybe because he is promoting drug use, polygamy, sexual freedom and radical freedom. Christian fundamentalists may hate him for that.

Fwiw, Timewave Zero/Novelty Theory was pretty thoroughly dismantled by Matthew Watkins, a properly qualified mathematician, and Terence was never able to cogently rebut the critique, afaik.

An excellent point, Watkins did outline the mathematical inconsistencies at the heart of Mckennas theory specifically. He did not however, entirely discount the over-arching concept of increasing complexity (as a function of our relative passage of time). Perhaps it may have even sparked a future curiosity of his, as he delved into number theory. I would be very interested in reading his latest book.

Not only this but I also recall that the starting of the line was chosen arbitrarily to coincide with known events at that time and had therefore no real basis at all. Also the fact that in December 2012 nothing happened should be a dead giveaway that this theory is flawed.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Yes. Matthew Watkins is actually an extremely interesting and intelligent man.

Peace

Macre

An interesting hyperspatial reality that comes up with Terence is; although it isn't popular, his descriptions about how "this is as dead as we ever are" ... the idea that there is a collective realm of ancestors and "non embodied" consciousness / life having perception including that which is deeply hyperspatial is something that has lived with us throughout human history, and is just somewhat overshadowed from time to time.

The actual "Terence Mckenna" named being refers to a phenomenon that occurred both in outer space (on/as a planet), and fully connected to hyperspace as we know, and as seems to be every lifeform.
What was this phenomenon actually?

The phenomenon mentioned by Terence in many discussions is the idea of a supernatural-level consciousness that exists "through human beings" as a type of "software" or, an older metaphor, musical instruments. (often the name given is the Logos but it doesn't need to be named to exist and co-evolve whatever it experiences)