I tried taking dmt orally again last night (4th time now)

I went for 600mg of Syrian Rue 10x extract dissolved in lemon juncertainty, and then 150mg of dmt bombed in a rizla 10 minutes after. After about 30 minutes my hole body started vibrating/tingling and after about 1-2 hours this intensified and my pupils dialated massively. There was lots of activity in my stomach at points. I defiantly felt like I was on dmt, I felt amazing. These effects continued for 5 hours but I didn't get any CEV's at all?

Really need some help here someone... I have wasted to much dmt trying to do this now it's upsetting

i've yet to take DMT orally myself but DMT isn't always visual necessarily even vaped. my past few vaporized DMT sessions have had almost no CEVs whatsoever.. trying to figure out why. but ya just go with the experience as is because it does happen. every experience is different from the last for me at least so just go in hoping to get something out of it but without expectations.

You felt amazing, and you feel like you wasted DMT??

Maybe you should reassess what you are looking for with DMT. Sure visuals can be nice, but there's way more to DMT than just visuals. Sometimes they may not come at all, but this shouldn't prevent you from enjoying and learning from the experience. There's a life changing pattern beyond visuals, try to tune into it

Although that is true, if I want to take dmt for the body high (which I do) It only required a dose of 10mg... Anything higher than this and I have always had visuals. So I say I have wasted it because all in all now(through attempted oral administration) I have used 600mg of dmt and only had slight effects on that last time so I feel there is something wrong with the method? Taking a dose of 150mg is considered to be quite intence, so to only get slight effects means somethibg is not being done write.

I say I felt amazing, which I did but only at certain points during the 4 hours.

But thanks for the replys.

I suggest you try drinking an oral caapi or rue brew and putting the dmt dissolved in it. It tastes worse, but is way more effective in terms of bioavailability/digestion IME.

Hmm ok thank you for that. So making the brew... Would dissolving it in lemon juice work ok? And would the freebase dissolve ok? Or would I need to change it to a salt?

Yeah lemon juice is fine, due to it's acidity it would already transform freebase alkaloids into salt form.

I'd rather make a whole brew with rue or caapi though, instead of just dissolve the alkaloids.. I don't have any real data to back this up except my own experience but it seems to me there is something in the complex mix of alkaloids present in whole brews but not extractions (even when extracts are redissolved) that aids the absorption of alkaloids.

Also, im not sure how your 10x extract was made, no idea how potent it is.. Thats why I much preffer extracting myself (or taking whole brews I make) than getting someone's supposed concentrated extract.

But in case all you have is the extract, then yeah I'd still try dissolving it all in some lemon juice and see how that goes. Hopefully its a good experience.

And lastly.. Careful what you wish for

Be well!

Very helpful advice! Thank you very much. I will give it a try in the not so distant future, or I may get some Rue instead of this already extracted stuff.. I think that may be where the problem lies.

Thank you for the post.