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BlackOut2445
#1 Posted : 11/5/2014 12:38:58 AM
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How many grams of dmt can I potentially get from 500 grams of ACRB? How many do people typically get from 100g?
 

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#2 Posted : 11/5/2014 2:30:38 AM

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One STRONGLY recommends this tek. It was done with 1 1/4 pound ACRB - Plain, shredded bark : NOT powdered but it would work with powdered too of course... just, 'Powdered' makes for more of a mess in One's Opinion - This yeild was 8.8 grams with more pulls to come after salting -
You CAN use a different solvent, your just going to have to freeze precipitate.
Leaving the Jar in the freezer for as long as you can endure it, results in better formation of Crystal IME. I don't know WHY this is but.. it is.
This tek is very simple but you MUST have patience if you want the yeild to be in the higher realms https://www.dmt-nexus.me...m=575274&#post575274
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#3 Posted : 11/5/2014 2:34:40 AM

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If this was done with 100 grams, I suppose the yield would be 1 fifth of 8.8 which would be ..what.. 2.08 or something?
One pulls as much as One can until no more 'Spice' is resolved... so, the yield is APPROXIMATELY 8.8 from 1 and a quarter pound, with more coming, potentially, after future pulls are performed.
Depending on the bark, the 'Spice' can be QUITE powerfulThumbs up
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#4 Posted : 11/5/2014 4:45:58 AM

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BlackOut2445 wrote:
How many grams of dmt can I potentially get from 500 grams of ACRB? How many do people typically get from 100g?

If you have quality inner root bark , you should yeild about 5g - 7.5g from 500g bark !

I usually yeild about 1.6 g from 100 g ACRB , plus if you want the simplest TEK with a very high yeild I recommend very highly Cybs hybrid salt TEK ! https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ybrid_ATB_%27Salt%27_Tek it's super easy , very quick & clean
start to finish 24hrs and that's with a freeze precipe !!Thumbs up
 
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#5 Posted : 11/5/2014 5:47:01 AM
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Earthwalker I follow yours and cybs teks and probably always will from now on and i was wondering if you could give me some mesurments and volume's for 500g of bark because I've not got time to do 5 or even 2 extractions, would really appreciate it if you could thanks
 
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#6 Posted : 11/5/2014 6:43:18 AM

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I'd like to try a 'STB' tek soon ...would the yeilds be the same, do you think? Earthwalker? Anyone?
'STB' seems to be quite easy too but I haven't tried it yet
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#7 Posted : 11/5/2014 6:51:38 AM

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locojuiceman wrote:
I'd like to try a 'STB' tek soon ...would the yeilds be the same, do you think? Earthwalker? Anyone?

STB is Not recommended for ACRB.

Acacia needs some finessing to get the best out of it.
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#8 Posted : 11/5/2014 10:07:57 AM

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sbc1 wrote:
Earthwalker I follow yours and cybs teks and probably always will from now on and i was wondering if you could give me some mesurments and volume's for 500g of bark because I've not got time to do 5 or even 2 extractions, would really appreciate it if you could thanks

I could just give you the numbers Stop or would you prefer to learn them for you're self !Thumbs up that way you understand the dynamics of saturation vs ratios needed for the larger extractions ! Big grin
 
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#9 Posted : 11/5/2014 10:18:19 AM
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I'll be happy if you can give me the numbers, because I no you shouldn't just double up the amounts and I don't really wanna mess up extractions trying to find out, cheers ew
 
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#10 Posted : 11/5/2014 11:25:36 AM

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I'll be happy if you can give me the numbers, because I no you shouldn't just double up the amounts and I don't really wanna mess up extractions trying to find out, cheers ew

See no I can't just do that sbc 1 , sorry we just don't spoon feed here so alls I'm gunna say is practice smaller extractions first , then slowly build up or do more research !
 
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#11 Posted : 11/5/2014 11:34:04 AM
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Ha I'm the same person who's already asked you, i've done the smaller ones following you and cyb just didn't want to double up, shouldn't of really posted it on 2 threads
 
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#12 Posted : 11/5/2014 1:04:28 PM

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Ha I'm the same person who's already asked you, i've done the smaller ones following you and cyb just didn't want to double up, shouldn't of really posted it on 2 threads

I no you did , do you think there's ppl running around called sbc 1 asking the same questions 4 times over !!
 
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#13 Posted : 11/5/2014 1:33:16 PM
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Twice and you don't need to be arsy about it, if you don't wanna help don't because there's people here that will, im not asking you to design a house im asking you what volume bottle would you use to what volume of stuff, instead of wasting material trying to figure it out, probably like you did before you got help
 
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i dont think Earthwalker is being arsey at all, he spends alot of time helping people out with extractions and he is only towing the forum line of no spoon feeding.

i know for a fact that the info you are asking for is available on the forum, you just have to spend more time trying to find it, fortunately you will learn other useful knowledge along the way that will then allow you to help out newcomers to the forum, this is why the Nexus is so good, learn, share, expand.

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#15 Posted : 11/5/2014 1:46:25 PM

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point is its really hard to mess up. if anyone is being arsy here its you sbc.

i've used his tek (earthwalker's guide to cyb's tek) successfully several times all with different measurements. i was able to do a 500g extraction in a 2 gallon glass jug although i can't recommend that. just a tad too cramped. it's more important to keep the chemicals like lye, your acid, and the salt to scale then it is the water. my most successful extractions where done using 150g in a 1 gallon glass jug while keeping the water measurements the same as the guide and only adding a touch extra of vinegar, lye and salt.

another good thing to note is you shouldn't need to scale up the measurements for the mini a/b step at all like i did during my first extraction. big waste of time and effort. after that i used the exact method he listed in a 1litre container and add naphtha from 10x 50-60ml pulls done from 2 150g extractions, and then from that i only needed 5x pulls to get a yield of 1.66% (5 grams!)

hope that helps
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#16 Posted : 11/5/2014 2:22:46 PM
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But he was with that post, instead of saying sorry can't help you have a search and you might find the info then I would of appreciated that, all I use is earthwalker and cybs teks so he was the go to guy to ask instead of someone who dosent use there teks, and I'm grateful for the great info but there was no need for that that's all im saying
 
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#17 Posted : 11/5/2014 2:24:30 PM
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I said earlier in a post that I can only do 1 big extraction i've not got time for 2 or 5, that was the reason for my post
 
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#18 Posted : 11/6/2014 1:56:00 AM

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Cybs TEKs are designed for a specific amount of bark , doing larger extractions can be done with the same TEK but that would take an experienced extractor to judge volumes and modify it as you go. Key things here are consistency of bark soup and pH.
If you are restricted for time I suggest you follow a conventional acid/base, its also fairly quick and if desired you can back-salt the solvent afterwards by following EWs' de-fat method. You should expect to lose yeild on a large extraction if its your first time.
If I was short of time with 500gs of bark I would put it in about 2.5l of pH3 water, boil until its a sludge , remove liquid and save it , add more liquid and repeat x2. Gather all separated liquid and reduce to 400ml. Basify to pH 13 leave for half hour and pull x5 (or 3 times using d-limo) with 50ml of warm naptha then follow EWs' defat method.
You could even do a thicklight TEK on the remaining sludge while your other solution is reducing and add these pulls.
Could be 3 or 4 hours over a stove but the TEK (or 2) could still be finished in 24hrs.
 
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#19 Posted : 11/6/2014 4:16:29 AM

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Thanks for the info EW I'll try that with the new batch, thanks to both you and cyb for your easy to follow teks, just waiting for the info of you about the volume's for 500g now ha

Have you a ph meter ?? Is so you really don't need measurements or TEKs really !Thumbs up

Just make sure you're liquid isn't thick so it mix's quite well , but remember you will lose a small percentage off you're yeild as the more you extract the more you loose !
Example if I do a 100g TEK I get 1.6% 1.6g so x by 5 = 8g
in theory but if you do a 500g TEK and you get 6.5g that would = 1.3% ya loosing 1.5 g DMT this is IME anyways !!
Now I put this down to focus ! Again example if I'm doing 100g TEK I'm focusing on a smaller bottle thinner neck easier to handle less waste ,, 500g TEK big heavy chunky bottle to throw around that makes for less enthusiasm and more can't wait to bloody finish this thing ! Lol again IME !!


As said in the other thread you asked the question in which I answered helpfully I think !!
 
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#20 Posted : 11/6/2014 5:40:43 AM
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Didn't really answer it but I should be fine, was just the size of the bottle that was bothering me more than anything i could probably work out the rest.

Thanks dt but don't really wanna boil that's why I asked ew, wanted to do his tek but with a larger amount
 
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