Hi, so there's a point I'd like to go back to, I believe now that it may be a central point in the way that I experience DMT (at least so far).

This is the feeling of being "pulled out" of my body.

I've only taken small doses and had very light experiences. I remember for the first time getting this feeling to "lose" my body. For that first time, I really got caught off guard and started to panic a little bit, then I remembered reading about "letting go", which helped with the initial fear of the initial experience.

This experience and most of the following ones weren't total loss of body, rather the feeling to being pulled out, or maybe take off (like a helicopter) outside of my body.
Never completely, at the exceptions of very very short occurences (while having CEV) when I had the feeling to "be a part" of whatever it was that I was experiencing. I think I can definitely relate to some stuff that I've read. (only almost happened once while having my eyes open)

I've started to increase dosage and use better ROA lately (as in "today" mostly chasing after that feeling of "dissolving into the experience". This is what I'm looking for, this is what I'm after.

Now I'm wondering, I'm very aware to be a very ego centered person, I've had people define me as "narcissistic" (to which I may agree, up to a point, I don't think I'm that bad tho). And I'm pretty sure this will bite me in the face during one of my next experiences with DMT.

However, I was very surprised with my "eagerness" to let go and abandon myself to the experience. Beforehand, I always thought that, regarding my ego issues, this would be the hard part. So now I'm confused. Are there several stages of "letting go" and "body separation"?

I'm very excited to continue forward with my experiences, next time I'll do 20 or 25mg, see what happens then. I'm probably not yet ready for a full on breakthrough, but I'm definitely looking forward to get further out of my body and into this mad place that I'm beginning to see small glimpses of.

What I'm wondering is, how easy is it for others? to "let go"? should I consider myself lucky to have been able to quickly fight this fear? or (and that may be the more likely scenario) should I expect an ever more intense "detachement" somehow? later down the road? I'm thinking ego death and whatnot.

I remember in one of my last experiences, I remembered that people sometimes ask what they want from the experience beforehand, so I asked, out loud, that I would like to remove my fear of the experience, and it did help, definitely.

but let's be honest, how much of a placebo effect is that?


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All good and valid questions.
Is there work involved "letting go"? Yes and no.
A decent dose will catapult you into a different space. But giving up resistance is important in order to get to the "core" of the experience.

There are different stages to body seperation.
At one point, you will probably lose awareness of your sorroundings completly. Or they'll be too much changed in order to be recognized. No need to chase anything.

This "melting" or "floating" sensation you experienced, i see as a manifestation of saying "YES". The more you say YES...the deeper you'll go. A part of sayinjg yes is your dosage, and smoking technique...

With 20mg properly smoked, there will be no room for placebo.
You WILL be put into another place. Some call it "the waiting room". Terence McKenna called it "The Crysanthemum". It can take on many different forms. For me it was often a white/pink tunnel of some sorts, sometimes a reddish/purple rotating floral pattern.

Don't panic once you approach this zone. I will probably feel very strange because it can permeate your body in a peculiar way. You might also hear voices talking to you. No need to be alarmed, this is normal. These are the "beings" waiting beyond the veil i guess.

Doesn't matter if you are a narcissist. At least not at this stage of your journey.



You have phrased that in a good way, it hits the nail on the head imho. The more you become a part of the experience, the more the experience BECOMES.

Its been 3 years and I'm only just starting to be able to 'let go'. Its led to me often saying 'no' in the middle of the trip and whatever love and light there were would turn into sharp points and jagged edges.

Now that I am more agreeable to letting go, things are becoming stronger and more lucid (in a way). The dmt is acting on your psychology at a primal level, so placebo or not, your thoughts will help create the atmosphere your reality is perceived as. If you believe it is fearful, it may become fearful, if you believe it is good, it may become good. Of course, your psychology can only influence, rather than control, the trip.

there has been "fear" of some sort before I begin to vape
but once I'm feeling that buzz, I did not experience fear, except for that very first time when I got "surprised"

The body buzz is really defined, and so is the feeling of "separation" whenever it occurs.
Visually I remember having sharp stuff once, but it didn't inspire me fear. now, my visuals always were extremely mild.

But all I want now is to fully let go, it felt great for the short instants it happened.

Oh, and I definitely force myself into smiling and breathing slowly.