Thanks for the links guys hopefully I'll be able to pick them up cheap in the uk

Anarchy have you seen this and what do you think, https://www.erowid.org/c...uild-a-better-spaceship/

1:16 DMT/juice seems light, even to me. anyone can confirm this?

thanks for the link

no worries mate, just trying to gather more info on what other people are doing, there's a couple of links at the bottom of that page as well

Yeah, that's a really low ratio.

Here's my theory: If you're mixing a 1:16 ratio and puffing on the pen all night long, it might give you a slight *bing* of tripping, but it would barely be noticeable unless you were puffing a lot.

I started with a 1ml/.25g of ejuice/spice and it did nothing for me. I tried four reasonably sized puffs, and although it tasted of spice, it didn't feel like anything.

I'm surprised that they're saying that even the other ratio you mention is capable of heavy experiences. IMO, we need to have at least .5g per ml to have notable affects unless you're puffing like a chimney for extended periods.

Thanks sbc1 for the link, every little bit helps.

If you guys take a read through this thread I believe I tried the mixture I had when it was a 1:4 ratio or something like that. The ratio they suggest for the "real deal" wasnt even a 1:2 ratio and I really dont believe it that article. I also completely disagree with the entire method they went about obtaining the mixture of DMT/PG, seems like a LOT of unneeded work. And what was up with the part about the DMT recrystallizing? I still have the original mixture and it hasn't shown any signs of doing that whatsoever. Which causes me to question the entire thing.

The link to the reddit posts interested me as well. I am having a hard time believing any of what they are saying. They were using a 2.2ohm coil set at 4.4v. I call BS and would challenge any of them to PROVE it. Although I am not quite sure how that would be accomplished.

IMO we need atleast 1g dmt to 1ml of carrier.

crystals DO dissolve overtime in PG/VG (overnight or 24hours for a larger dose)
I can testify for that

I got my mg scale and a syringe that I use for ejuice

I will definitely not test on 1ml because I don't have enough spice, but I'll try to test on lower amounts.

1:4 or 1:2 for me

for the experienced psychonauts, maybe 1:1 is the way to go, but that seems to be overkill with rebuildable drippers

I've got the kanger mini pro tank 2 with a vision spinner battery with adjustable voltage will this be ok for spice, i've not got alot of spice so what ratio should I use to what e-liquid

don't take my word to the bank here, we're still trying to figure this thing out

but people do report some kinds of success with such equipment
I'd say anywhere between 1:2 and 1:1 ratio

the main reason I don't go this route, to be honest, is that with devices such as protank and whatnot, there is a chance of random leaking, causing you to waste the whole juice or a big part of it.

for someone who's experienced, maybe starting at 1:1 then eventually diluting the thing if it's too strong.

hopefully, there will be concrete results sometime soon, many people are on it but as for now, it's anyone's guess

1:4 seems to be a minimum to have any effect at all
many people seem to believe 1:1 is good

again, don't take it to the bank, wait for at least a couple more replies before you commit to it.

now I'm wondering, due to the mode of administration, would it be somehow possible to, rather than make DMT juice, make Changa juice using harmine/harmaline extracts (not there yet) and maybe other extracts for taste/smell/added effects

Im curious as to whether or not harmala can also be dissolved and if it would vape properly with both dmt and harmala in PG. Wouldnt that be something if it worked.

Hopefully someone can test it out, I need to start testing soon but I've only got .5g till I get some more bark and I don't want to waste it if it dosent work

I'm no chemist or anything, really, but I was wondering if even, maybe, the ejuice could or couldn't be included within the extraction process some way or another (tbh, it's more curiosity at that point)

I should get some caapi vine soon, I can probably try (granted that I'll be able to extract anything from it)

but my understanding of it all is extremely limited.

now if we were to include harmala in the ejuice mix, would we need as much spice?

Seeing how fast I can go through 1ml of juice, I really think 1g/ml spice/juice ratio to be wasteful

Any news yet on how everyone's doing

I did a test last night with the globe atomizer and have decided to try a rebuildable atomizer. Just have to order it and when it's built I will try it out. The globe seemed clogged or something, I am not sure what was going on.

reporting back, 1:5 ratio on mechanical/sub ohm setup

pretty much nothing, very very light body buzz and that's it

I need to extract some more, right now I don't have enough left to keep playing with ejuice.

but I'll be back. My "fear of accidentally blasting off" is preventing me to move forward there, so I'll step back on the ejuice experimenting for now, until I'm more familiar with the spice.

then it'll be 1:2 or closer to 1:1 most likely

Has anyone tried 1:2 ratio of yet?

I tried my mixture at a couple different stages. If you go back through this thread you will see what I am talking about. I think I tried at 1:4 and 1:2 and then 1:1. From my experimentation I feel 1:1 is required.

I was getting frustrated yesterday, trying to get somewhere, but not too far and whatnot.

So I figured, I didn't have anymore juice ready, so I dropped crystals directly on my dripper's cotton wicks along with 0nic 100% VG juice.

I was so frustrated from failures and with myself, having cold feet and all, I didn't even bother to weigh, so maybe I dropped like 30mg in crystals right on the wick, on the sides of the coil, but not on the coil itself. it was a very low ohm "diesel" build (heats a lot but takes some time to get there)

I got what I believe were CEV and even mild OEV, that loud high pitched sound that gets louder, that feeling of losing my body etc...

it was very encouraging and I'll probably get down that route from now on (dropping crystals on the wick directly rather than making them an ejuice) see what happens.

I'm almost out of crystals now, so I need to extract more.


as far as making juice goes, definitely 1:1, but that seems too much of a waste for me. 5g of dmt needed to make 10ml juice, I don't know, maybe I'm missing something.

You could always put 100mg in 1/10th a ml to keep it 1:1.

Sometimes you just gotta close your eyes and trust.

Nice one hadoq glad to hear your getting closer, only benefits us all when we finally crack this.

Anarchy i think im going to do what you said because I've not got that much spice, 100mg in 1/10ml, should I go with 100% vg, 100% pg or a mixture