I have taken rue and acacia teas maybe 10 times, and my friends combined is probably around 30 experiences and all of us have had the experience be pretty much over 3 hours after ingestion, but I read online people saying that the trip lasts 5-6 hours.. I kind of doubt it. How long does it last for you?

What dosages are you talking about?

Never had rue and acacia. But i've had rue and DMT and rue and mimosa many times. It's common knowledge that depending on the dosages it can be anywhere between 2 hours and 12 hours. Sometimes even longer in the lingering effects. A heavy rue brew will definitely drag it on much longer than people think possible.

In my experience, Acacia Confusa is more intense in the beginning of a trip, in stark contrast to Chaliponga which gets more intense towards the end. But what dosages and methods of consumption are you using?

Doses ranging from 90-200 harmalas, and 1-6 grams confusa..

Im gonna say 12 hours has never happened.. Dmt is still slowy metabolized even with full harmala inhibition because harmalas are RIMAs.

For me (I'm on the HIGH end of the harmala dosing range; I assume due to my endogenous MAO) those amounts of harmalas would be inadequate for a longer lasting experience. I would consider seeing where 250-300mg of harmalas takes you and going from there. Consider walking your harmala doses up even beyond that range once you've seen what that can do, as long as you feel comfortable/safe doing so, of course.

I bet you'll find increased duration.

Like snozz said 200mg isn't a dose of harmalas that would produce a very long experience in most people. The drawn out experiences are dependent on the higher doses of harmalas, not so much DMT amounts, which will mostly have faded off in their influence that far into the experience, but perceptual shifts due to it can certainly linger.

But you can believe what you want

Interesting that people would go above 200mg harmalas because everything I have read makes it sound like there is a lot of nausea involved but that could increase the duration.. My experience always lasts like the same time as long as I hit atleast 90 mg harmalas though.

I like the short time though, its perfect for me so I guess ill stay here haha.

Do whatever you are comfortable with, no one here would tell you otherwise

Harmala doses vary from person to person. For extracted materials, I wouldn't even bother taking less than 300mg. And remember, that number/the experience can vary depending on the ratio of harmine to harmaline present in the total alkaloid extract (assuming you haven't separated them).

Just remember that you cannot comment on that which you have not experienced and should not cast aspersions on other people's claims if you have no experience with which to back it up.

Happy traveling

i agree with the others on the harmalas dose, 200 wouldnt do the buisness for me.

I think harmalas have massive variance in effect in different people. I would never advise starting above about 2-250mg but i found it worth while experimenting with higher doses, but only once you get comfitable with lower doses.


I gave my mate some rue extract that was relatively clean and informed him of dose ect. he has no scales and is quite adventurous so the first time he took them on his own he just put a teaspoons worth in juice and knocked it back, my guess is that it was about 750mg, give or take, he had a lovely time, nice heavy bodyload, crazy tracers and sparkles everywhere but with very little to no nausea at all. I have taken quite high doses in this range and above without nausea.

so stay where your comfy by all means, but dont let the fear of nausea stop you from slowly increasing dose to see how it effects duration, you may well find that you can also lower your Magic dose if you raise the Harmala.

Just a personal add:
200 in HCL form works very well on this end.
But the mentioned 1 - 6 gr of "Acacia light" is quite a range, 1 would be therapeutic only, and 6 as just a starting point for some deeper work, actually preferring 10 better (not for mimo!)