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#321 Posted : 9/15/2014 2:26:40 PM

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AFAICS it is fine for extraction use.

Tryptamine420 wrote:
1,2,4-trimethylpentane weight: 1-5%

This is an aliphatic hydrocarbon. It is a branched alkane, as opposed to a straight chain alkane.

Tryptamine420 wrote:
Xylenes, weight: 0-1%
Ethylbenzene, weight: 0-0.1%
Benzene, weight: 0-0.005%

These are aromatic hydrocarbons and are more toxic than aliphatic hydrocarbons, benzene being the worst. Good extraction quality naphta should have very little of these. If the numbers are true, then there is indeed very little in your naphta.

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I havnt tested the spice extracted with it yet. Is it safe to smoke? Is there any way any of these could end up in my end product?

All of the listed chemicals are volatile, so they should in time be evaporated off from the spice. Crush the crystals, put them in a shallow bowl and set it aside in a cool and dark but well ventilated place. Cover with some clean cloth to prevent dust falling onto the spice. After a week, your spice should be mostly free from solvent remains.
 

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#322 Posted : 10/5/2014 4:17:24 PM
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Hey guys you'll be able to tell I'm new here and I have a question and am so so sorry if it's posted in the wrong thread/format but this was where I thought it should go so here goes...

I've been researching ayahuasca for about a year now, but have decided that as I'm in a student house it'd be a little risky (socially/legally) to spend the whole day brewing the tea. I found this YouTube video from what seems like a reputable person here : https://youtube.com/watch?v=BHv_vji9MtQ stating an alternative method.

He suggests the capsule method, of powdering Syrian Rue and Mimosa Hostillis and taking 2g of Syrian Rue and then 2g of the Mimosa, waiting half an hour and taking more mimosa depending on the effects you already receive.

Now after some more research I learnt that consuming Syrian Rue can be really bad for you, which leads me onto my question.

What if I make Syrian Rue tea and take the mimosa hostilis capsules with it? Will this be an effective method, or will I just be wasting my time?

The dosage would be 3g Syrian Rue in approx 330ml high alkaline water -- a 5 minute wait and then 6g Mimosa Hostillis (2g 3 times half an hour in between).

any feedback on whether this will make for an educational DMT trip will be appreciated. I'm open to ideas on improvement.

Thanks for much for your time and sorry again if I posted this in the wrong place.
 
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#323 Posted : 10/6/2014 3:33:23 AM

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Gregory212 wrote:
Hey guys you'll be able to tell I'm new here and I have a question and am so so sorry if it's posted in the wrong thread/format but this was where I thought it should go so here goes...

I think it could better have been posted in another thread or even a new one, since this is not about what chemicals to use for extractions, but more about methods of administration.

You don't need to boil rue or mimosa the whole day for an effective extract. Eating powdered mimosa is discouraged, it will make you sick. Make a tea instead and decant or filter. It should not take more than 30 minutes to do this. Powdered rue can be eaten without much complications other than the fact that it has effects on the MAO-A enzyme, which you should be familiar with before ingesting. A tea is probable less nauseating and made as easy as a mimosa tea. Boiling the seeds whole makes filtering easier.

Don't make the tea alkaline, that is only useful if you want to extract crystals. Instead, use some lemon juice to acidify the tea while boiling.

Please do some more research on the forum and ask your question again in another, more appropriate thread.
 
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#324 Posted : 10/6/2014 8:44:48 AM

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Gregory212 wrote:
...The dosage would be 3g Syrian Rue in approx 330ml high alkaline water -- a 5 minute wait and then 6g Mimosa Hostillis (2g 3 times half an hour in between)...
Pitubo is right that alkaline is the wrong direction. YMMV but 6 gr mimo is way too much for a starter person if maoi was decent. Take care and be gentle on yourself Wink
 
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#325 Posted : 10/23/2014 11:34:23 PM
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Sorry if this has been asked already. SWIM is looking at the simple STB tek and trying to find a good solvent in the UK.

Is U-POL panel wipe any good? It seems clean, the MSDS is here: http://www.hex.co.uk/MSDS/upol/s20panelwipe.pdf

Thanks in advance
 
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#326 Posted : 10/25/2014 12:48:18 PM

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Its label is CAS: 64741-84-0
Looks fine, boiling point 100 - 120 deg C.
There are lighter solvents out there, but it should work.
Tetrosyl panel wipe is also OK and UK sold.
One can't avoid easily the mentioning of the cyclics with panel wipes, but I guess they are traces only? The cyclics that hold spice wont freeze precip, but if they are indeed traces --> no big deal.
Always do an evap test, it should not leave traces once gone.
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BinaryLogic
#327 Posted : 10/25/2014 9:01:33 PM
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Jees wrote:
Its label is CAS: 64741-84-0
Looks fine, boiling point 100 - 120 deg C.
There are lighter solvents out there, but it should work.
Tetrosyl panel wipe is also OK and UK sold.
One can't avoid easily the mentioning of the cyclics with panel wipes, but I guess they are traces only? The cyclics that hold spice wont freeze precip, but if they are indeed traces --> no big deal.
Always do an evap test, it should not leave traces once gone.


Thanks for clearing that up, would tetrosyl be a better choice in the future?

Will definitely be doing an evap test first. I'm very knew to this, was planning to do an extraction allowing the naphtha to evaporate rather than freeze precip. Is there any downside to this other than being unable to reuse the naphtha?
 
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#328 Posted : 10/25/2014 10:09:10 PM

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BinaryLogic wrote:
... would tetrosyl be a better choice in the future?...

Nope, according to this msds of 2009 it has the exact same boiling point though it carries another code, but the boiling point is still a fine indicator to compare evaporating.
 
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#329 Posted : 10/27/2014 5:40:33 PM
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Jees wrote:
BinaryLogic wrote:
... would tetrosyl be a better choice in the future?...

Nope, according to this msds of 2009 it has the exact same boiling point though it carries another code, but the boiling point is still a fine indicator to compare evaporating.


Thanks,

Friend of a friend plans on doing their first extraction soon and appreciates the help
 
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#330 Posted : 11/29/2014 1:58:45 PM
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why everyone is arguing about naphta? I want to extract from Acacia confusa and I was oriented on DCM instead of naphta or other non polar solvents. there is some issues with DCM and acacia which
I should be advised of?
 
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#331 Posted : 12/1/2014 7:59:45 AM
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Hello,

Is it safe to use synthetic vinegar distilled from petroleum as I am unable to find white distilled vinegar.

Thank you
 
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#332 Posted : 12/1/2014 9:27:24 PM
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moisture wrote:
Hello,

Is it safe to use synthetic vinegar distilled from petroleum as I am unable to find white distilled vinegar.

Thank you


Buy some HCl, where i live i can find it in supermarket, or hardware store, it is sold as a cleaner
 
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#333 Posted : 12/1/2014 9:51:19 PM

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Rael3554 wrote:
moisture wrote:
Hello,

Is it safe to use synthetic vinegar distilled from petroleum as I am unable to find white distilled vinegar.

Thank you


Buy some HCl, where i live i can find it in supermarket, or hardware store, it is sold as a cleaner


Or you could buy some fumaric acid powder online from a spice/herb shop. its very cheap, food safe, & can be used to acidify the initial extraction as well as to convert freebase dmt to fumarate salt later for storage or oral use.
 
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Rael3554 wrote:
why everyone is arguing about naphta? I want to extract from Acacia confusa and I was oriented on DCM instead of naphta or other non polar solvents. there is some issues with DCM and acacia which
I should be advised of?


It has a very high vapor pressure. The plain and simple is: it can put off alot of fumes, so be mindful of working with it in poorly ventilated areas.
 
moisture
#335 Posted : 12/2/2014 7:26:36 AM
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Thank you for your replies Rael3554 and concombres,

I shall look around and see what I can find

 
concombres
#336 Posted : 12/25/2014 5:32:54 PM

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I noticed a new (at least to me, havn't seen it before) brand of solvents being stocked at lowes (i'll avoid name dropping & linking this particular product to keep it off the radar)

I was looking at their xylene & naphtha msds.
Naphtha looks good, but it's light hydrotreated naphtha 95-100%.
I'm not exactly sure what that other +-5% may be, but it does concern me a bit. The naphtha i have now lists what the 5% is.

The xylene is mixed isomer (benzene, dimethyl) 60-100%
Ethylbenzene (ethylbenzol; pheneylethane) 10-30%

Is the xylene safe to use? & what is the difference between hydrotreated & regular petroleum distillates?
 
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#337 Posted : 1/3/2015 9:05:59 AM

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Hi everyone,

Does this solvent look ok to use?

https://www.tetrosyl.com/images/...documents/PWD005_SDS.pdf

The msds says it's made up of naphta and light hydrotreated 60-100%. Does this mean that it is just a combination of those two ingredients or is there something else in there that I am missing? I know this stuff has been mentioned before in this thread but the msds seems to have been updated since then. Thanks.
 
moisture
#338 Posted : 1/4/2015 3:50:39 PM
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Well i'm looking into making my first changa mix and I run into a problem,I went over to the chemist shop and asked for isopropyl alcohol/rubbing alcohol and well all they had was a bottle named surgical spirit

Now i researched and found out that surgical spirit = rubbing alcohol and is known by different names in different parts of the world...

My only concern is there are no chemical contents mentioned on the surgical spirit bottle,is it ok to go ahead and use this for changa?

My only other option is using vodka (smirnoff) which is something like 50-80 proof(correct me if I am wrong)

 
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#339 Posted : 2/6/2015 9:06:26 AM

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Is it unsafe to purchase small amounts of Pdcl2 from online markets? In other words, this and other items are suspect for inappropriate use and allegedly watched heavily. May this and other items be purchased in small quantities without much worry? Or is there some type of safety protocol that should be adhered to?

A very honest, but nervous person, wished to do only good deeds but worries about purchasing goods for good deeds bringing unwanted attention for suspicion of bad deeds.

How could one wisely approach this matter? This person wishes to be wise as possible, but realizes she is not savvy enough and does not know where or how to ask for safety advice.

Sincere gratitude for your time.

 
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#340 Posted : 3/1/2015 10:34:44 PM
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Hello everybody,

sorry for not making an intro but I'm just not that into talking about myself Smile

But I do have some questions and if someone would be so kind to clear some things for me I would really appreciate it. I did go through FAQ a few times but didn't find the right answers or just missed them, in that case, I apologize for wasted time.

so.. SWIM will be doing Q21Q21's Tek ( https://anoniem.org/?htt.../Lime_A/B_Extraction_Tek ) and there are some things SWIM is not sure that are right for it..

No1:
d-limonene https://anoniem.org/?htt...ebay.de/itm/291355560036 it says that is >99%, but can't find the right mdsd. it might be this one but not sure
https://anoniem.org/?htt...duct/fluka/62118?lang=en

No2:
All that SWIM can find in his local store is 9% white vinegar and is not sure how to get it to 5%, or if it will work with 9%.

thank you for the effort and time

have a nice day
 
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