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jarklor
#1 Posted : 10/24/2014 6:24:59 PM
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My name is Jack. I've never token any drugs, alcohol, or smoked in my entire life. Now I'm really interested in taking dmt to get insight about death and spiritual enlightenment. I posted a few questions in the faq forum so I'd appreciate if seone would answer. Or I'll try to find information about my questions somewhere else. Feel free to ask any questions about me.
 

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#2 Posted : 10/24/2014 9:21:09 PM

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Welcome! Like you, I had no prior use of any other mind altering substances. I didnt see any posts of yours in the FAQ section. Through unfolding the layers of reality as you know it and will come to find, not know it, youll likely find the answers and insight you seek Smile
"A troop of elves smashes down your front door and rotates and balances the wheels on the after death vehicle, present you with the bill and then depart. And it's completely paradigm shattering. I mean, ya know, union with the white light you could handle. An invasion of your apartment by jeweled self dribbling basketballs from hyperspace that are speaking in demonic Greek is NOT something that you anticipated and could handle!' -T.M.


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#3 Posted : 10/24/2014 11:42:47 PM

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Greetings jarklor and welcome to the Nexus!

I am probably not the person to provide answers to your questions regarding spriritual experiences, I myself am more of a materialist. I can however say that in my experience it seems that although many see pretty colours and not get much much more out of the experience – what you get out of it is what you put in. I find DMT a tremendously useful tool, whether you will or not will be for you to find out if you decide to work on this path.

Do a good bit of research before you decide to dive in, there is a lot to find out. If anything the variety of standpoints on the experience, extraction methods and means of working with the spice is interesting in itself.

Best of luck on your travels, whatever path you end up taking!

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I didnt see any posts of yours in the FAQ section.

It got moved, see the “What the FAQ“ thread @ https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=573679#post573679
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jarklor
#4 Posted : 10/25/2014 5:38:13 AM
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Welcome! Like you, I had no prior use of any other mind altering substances. I didnt see any posts of yours in the FAQ section. Through unfolding the layers of reality as you know it and will come to find, not know it, youll likely find the answers and insight you seek Smile


Thanks for the reply. Do you think that dmt works on everyone? How do you get a good result?
 
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#5 Posted : 10/25/2014 7:03:34 AM

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Thanks dlb for pointing that out! And jack as dlb said, theres a lot of great information here. And like anywhere, you may come across information from time to time that may be a little wrong or slightly off path, but the best part is that there will always be more experienced forum members stepping in to bring to light the incorrect information and what the more appropriate answer is.


There are some people who can not experience what DMT has to offer, but it is typically those who are taking medications containing SSRI's, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

If you happen to take any medications with SSRI's, your best bet is to make a decision if you wish to abandon your medication or if you wish to continue at the cost of not being able to have a DMT experience. SSRI's essentially block the molecules from binding to the receptors. So you may begin to have the onset of a trip, but it will essentially, to my understanding, be aborted prematurely.

If youre not on any medication, then yes, any one who has a properly administered dose of DMT, it will do its thing Smile


To elaborate further on your FAQ post, I too very very very rarely remember my dreams. When I go to sleep, Im out cold, and I just wake up next morning. And I am absolutely promising you, DMT is not a substance where all youll have happen is some colors flickering. You are transported elsewhere, somewhere not of this realm. It can not be explained in a manner that truly justifies what it is, it must be experienced! Even at lower, non-breakthru doses, you still experience the indescribable. Closed eye visuals are multi-dimensional infinite spaces containing sacred geometry, fractals, mandals, etc.

Ayahuasca differs from freebase dmt in that it is a liquid brew versus crystal freebase. Ayahuasca is brewed using two different substances, banisteriopsis caapi vine (known as ayahuasca vine) and chacruna leaf (psychotria viridis). The chacruna leaf contains the DMT and the b.caapi vine contains the MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor) which makes DMT orally active once it hits the digestive system. DMT in and of itself is not orally active, it must be snorted as a snuff or smoked as a freebase, of which there are many different methods of smoking. Aya lasts several hours and is much more navigable and immersive whereas freebase dmt is a bit more...rough around the edges. It is over in 4-10 minutes versus several hours for ayahuasca and it is almost overwhelming, like being shot out of a cannon. I have not experiences aya, only freebase.

There are those who abandon freebase dmt itself for changa, where you take multiple different herbs (mullein, caapi, blue lotus, etc) and infuse your freebase dmt by dissolving it in isopropyl alcohol into these herbs, and then smoking it that way. Those who do changa swear by it over freebase as it is a much smoother, more navigable ride and it can last anywhere from 10-15 minutes depending on dosage and herbs used. I have yet to experience changa, but I have experienced freebase dmt after having a big cup of blue lotus tea. The experience was much smoother and less tense.
"A troop of elves smashes down your front door and rotates and balances the wheels on the after death vehicle, present you with the bill and then depart. And it's completely paradigm shattering. I mean, ya know, union with the white light you could handle. An invasion of your apartment by jeweled self dribbling basketballs from hyperspace that are speaking in demonic Greek is NOT something that you anticipated and could handle!' -T.M.


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#6 Posted : 10/25/2014 11:58:40 AM

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welcome to the Nexus jarklor, good to have youThumbs up

going into the experience with expectations is a recipe for disapointment, insight about death and spiritual enlightenment is probablynot on the cards, especially first time, however a big serving of SurprisedShocked Love Laughing is definitely on the cards.

i myself dont have spiritual experiences, well maybe 2 over the years, but generally its insane adventures through the madness.

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How do you get a good result?

researchThumbs up
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#7 Posted : 10/25/2014 12:33:01 PM

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jarklor wrote:
My name is Jack. I've never token any drugs, alcohol, or smoked in my entire life. Now I'm really interested in taking dmt to get insight about death and spiritual enlightenment. I posted a few questions in the faq forum so I'd appreciate if seone would answer. Or I'll try to find information about my questions somewhere else. Feel free to ask any questions about me.


Do you have a normal meditation practice? If not I highly recommend it.

It isn't possible to fully control the experience per say, but you can certainly get your set (mental state of being) in order such that spiritual states of mind are more likely to arise during the experience.

Things that work for me. Spending time meditating and doing yoga before an experience. And honestly.. I'l be blunt. DMT alone isn't the most spiritual experience...not that you can't have them with it.. it's just that about the time you think you have an insight it's gone. The entire experience just evaporates as fast as it comes on.

So my advice would be. Wake up early one morning.. not to early. If you are a coffee or tea drinker then drink half your normal dose. While drinking your coffee/tea spend some time reading something spiritual. Wait about 45 minutes after your coffee/tea then take a dose of shrooms. As soon as you take the shrooms get up and start doing yoga. I like to do yoga right up until the time the shrooms come on and then I sit down and meditate. I have tried meditation right after taking the shrooms and found that even after 1.5 hours of sitting I felt nothing.. Basically I had calmed myself to such an extent that my metabolism wasn't really doing anything... but then as soon as I got up to go to the bath room.. BOOM.

During the experience try to remain free of judgement. Try to remain in observer mode and just allow it to manifest. You do these things and a spiritual experience is almost certainly in your cards... though it may not be what you have imagined it to be.. Thus the need to not judge or have expectations.

Peace.

If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
 
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#8 Posted : 10/25/2014 12:48:25 PM

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jarklor, if you dont mind me asking, what is your take on a spiritual experience? im frequently unsure what people mean when they say spiritual experience.

I ask because, as i said, i dont class what happens to me when i partake in the Magic as spiritual but i am wondering if i dont class them as spiritual due to semantic confusion on my part.

cheers
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jarklor
#9 Posted : 10/25/2014 4:57:00 PM
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3rdI wrote:
jarklor, if you dont mind me asking, what is your take on a spiritual experience? im frequently unsure what people mean when they say spiritual experience.

I ask because, as i said, i dont class what happens to me when i partake in the Magic as spiritual but i am wondering if i dont class them as spiritual due to semantic confusion on my part.

cheers


I wamt to feel like I'm going to another world and search for answers within myself. I've heard about people saying their not afraid of dying and their contact with strange beings. Is this true?

I've heard that dmt was called the "spirit molecule."
 
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#10 Posted : 10/25/2014 6:07:36 PM

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thanks, with a decent dose you will definitely go to another place.

Dr Strassman called it the spirit molecule but i think its Magic

good luck on your travelsThumbs up
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#11 Posted : 10/26/2014 2:38:44 AM

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It feels to me like a "gateway". As if we are kept underwater at the bottom of a pool our whole life, and when you take DMT it is like swimming to the surface, you begin to see the light and a clearer picture of whats up there. If you break through you blast out of the "water" that held you in this reality and then you can see!
 
jarklor
#12 Posted : 10/27/2014 2:22:39 AM
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HumbleTraveler wrote:
Thanks dlb for pointing that out! And jack as dlb said, theres a lot of great information here. And like anywhere, you may come across information from time to time that may be a little wrong or slightly off path, but the best part is that there will always be more experienced forum members stepping in to bring to light the incorrect information and what the more appropriate answer is.


There are some people who can not experience what DMT has to offer, but it is typically those who are taking medications containing SSRI's, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

If you happen to take any medications with SSRI's, your best bet is to make a decision if you wish to abandon your medication or if you wish to continue at the cost of not being able to have a DMT experience. SSRI's essentially block the molecules from binding to the receptors. So you may begin to have the onset of a trip, but it will essentially, to my understanding, be aborted prematurely.

If youre not on any medication, then yes, any one who has a properly administered dose of DMT, it will do its thing Smile


To elaborate further on your FAQ post, I too very very very rarely remember my dreams. When I go to sleep, Im out cold, and I just wake up next morning. And I am absolutely promising you, DMT is not a substance where all youll have happen is some colors flickering. You are transported elsewhere, somewhere not of this realm. It can not be explained in a manner that truly justifies what it is, it must be experienced! Even at lower, non-breakthru doses, you still experience the indescribable. Closed eye visuals are multi-dimensional infinite spaces containing sacred geometry, fractals, mandals, etc.

Ayahuasca differs from freebase dmt in that it is a liquid brew versus crystal freebase. Ayahuasca is brewed using two different substances, banisteriopsis caapi vine (known as ayahuasca vine) and chacruna leaf (psychotria viridis). The chacruna leaf contains the DMT and the b.caapi vine contains the MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor) which makes DMT orally active once it hits the digestive system. DMT in and of itself is not orally active, it must be snorted as a snuff or smoked as a freebase, of which there are many different methods of smoking. Aya lasts several hours and is much more navigable and immersive whereas freebase dmt is a bit more...rough around the edges. It is over in 4-10 minutes versus several hours for ayahuasca and it is almost overwhelming, like being shot out of a cannon. I have not experiences aya, only freebase.

There are those who abandon freebase dmt itself for changa, where you take multiple different herbs (mullein, caapi, blue lotus, etc) and infuse your freebase dmt by dissolving it in isopropyl alcohol into these herbs, and then smoking it that way. Those who do changa swear by it over freebase as it is a much smoother, more navigable ride and it can last anywhere from 10-15 minutes depending on dosage and herbs used. I have yet to experience changa, but I have experienced freebase dmt after having a big cup of blue lotus tea. The experience was much smoother and less tense.


Where should I look for how to make dmt?


 
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#13 Posted : 10/27/2014 3:33:03 AM

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Hello Jack,

I came across DMT on the internet about a year and a half ago and become very interested in experiencing it for the exact same reason as you. With serious intent and thought i was able to manifest it into my experiences and what happened after blew not only my mind but changed the course of my life. I went into the trip with a very clear intention of experiencing what happens to us at death and after and i can honestly tell you that I now know. It was really scary for me at first but after a few months of contemplation and meditation, I realize the true beauty of it all.

I hope you too get to find what your looking for Smile

Stay positive with a very clear intention and I'm sure it will find you soon. Always remember: What you seek, also seeks you

Namaste
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jarklor
#14 Posted : 10/27/2014 3:42:02 AM
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Awokenatlast wrote:
Hello Jack,

I came across DMT on the internet about a year and a half ago and become very interested in experiencing it for the exact same reason as you. With serious intent and thought i was able to manifest it into my experiences and what happened after blew not only my mind but changed the course of my life. I went into the trip with a very clear intention of experiencing what happens to us at death and after and i can honestly tell you that I now know. It was really scary for me at first but after a few months of contemplation and meditation, I realize the true beauty of it all.

I hope you too get to find what your looking for Smile

Stay positive with a very clear intention and I'm sure it will find you soon. Always remember: What you seek, also seeks you

Namaste


Thank you. Smile how should I get started? Which guide to making dmt do you reccomend?
 
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start by reading the wiki, its all there.
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jarklor
#16 Posted : 10/27/2014 4:15:45 PM
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HumbleTraveler wrote:
Thanks dlb for pointing that out! And jack as dlb said, theres a lot of great information here. And like anywhere, you may come across information from time to time that may be a little wrong or slightly off path, but the best part is that there will always be more experienced forum members stepping in to bring to light the incorrect information and what the more appropriate answer is.


There are some people who can not experience what DMT has to offer, but it is typically those who are taking medications containing SSRI's, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

If you happen to take any medications with SSRI's, your best bet is to make a decision if you wish to abandon your medication or if you wish to continue at the cost of not being able to have a DMT experience. SSRI's essentially block the molecules from binding to the receptors. So you may begin to have the onset of a trip, but it will essentially, to my understanding, be aborted prematurely.

If youre not on any medication, then yes, any one who has a properly administered dose of DMT, it will do its thing Smile


To elaborate further on your FAQ post, I too very very very rarely remember my dreams. When I go to sleep, Im out cold, and I just wake up next morning. And I am absolutely promising you, DMT is not a substance where all youll have happen is some colors flickering. You are transported elsewhere, somewhere not of this realm. It can not be explained in a manner that truly justifies what it is, it must be experienced! Even at lower, non-breakthru doses, you still experience the indescribable. Closed eye visuals are multi-dimensional infinite spaces containing sacred geometry, fractals, mandals, etc.

Ayahuasca differs from freebase dmt in that it is a liquid brew versus crystal freebase. Ayahuasca is brewed using two different substances, banisteriopsis caapi vine (known as ayahuasca vine) and chacruna leaf (psychotria viridis). The chacruna leaf contains the DMT and the b.caapi vine contains the MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor) which makes DMT orally active once it hits the digestive system. DMT in and of itself is not orally active, it must be snorted as a snuff or smoked as a freebase, of which there are many different methods of smoking. Aya lasts several hours and is much more navigable and immersive whereas freebase dmt is a bit more...rough around the edges. It is over in 4-10 minutes versus several hours for ayahuasca and it is almost overwhelming, like being shot out of a cannon. I have not experiences aya, only freebase.

There are those who abandon freebase dmt itself for changa, where you take multiple different herbs (mullein, caapi, blue lotus, etc) and infuse your freebase dmt by dissolving it in isopropyl alcohol into these herbs, and then smoking it that way. Those who do changa swear by it over freebase as it is a much smoother, more navigable ride and it can last anywhere from 10-15 minutes depending on dosage and herbs used. I have yet to experience changa, but I have experienced freebase dmt after having a big cup of blue lotus tea. The experience was much smoother and less tense.


Well, I was going to get anxiety medication soon so ssri's won't be good. Is snri or other stuff ok?
 
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#17 Posted : 10/27/2014 4:39:41 PM

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jarklor wrote:

Well, I was going to get anxiety medication soon so ssri's won't be good. Is snri or other stuff ok?


In all seriousness, if youre not yet on any medication, I would wait to see how you feel after your first or first few dmt experiences.

jarklor wrote:

Where should I look for how to make dmt?



On here of course, there are plenty of teks available. As mentioned earlier, I would read through the wiki section first to give yourself a general familiarization. For an extraction tek, the most popular (because it works with no BS) is Cyb's hybrid salt tek.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/DMT-Nexus_Wiki:Health_and_Safety

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Category:Science


"A troop of elves smashes down your front door and rotates and balances the wheels on the after death vehicle, present you with the bill and then depart. And it's completely paradigm shattering. I mean, ya know, union with the white light you could handle. An invasion of your apartment by jeweled self dribbling basketballs from hyperspace that are speaking in demonic Greek is NOT something that you anticipated and could handle!' -T.M.


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I agree with what people have priviously said, getting to grips with meditation before really helped with me. I dived in actually with the same questions, i was curious about the chemical reactions in the brain on human death and i wanted to experiance the mystical, as i was an athiest and felt i needed to test those boundaries. What i found, was for me it was an explosion of awe, i felt other intelligences, but it was just a crazy rollercoaster ride through hyperspace. But after not doing it for a while as i was just enjoying the ride, things like yoga and meditation crept into my life, aswell as a thirst to understand all the worlds religions and ways of thinking properly, especially Hindusim, The Tao and Buddhism. When i decided to go back into hyperspace once more. i had a new level of respect and i treated it more as a personal ritual and sacrement then recrational and a drug, and what i found was it was an entirely different thing. it was further, clearler, i was taking back more than the previously hazy dreams of awe back with me. I felt it was transformative, but i got to a point where the desire to do it was less and less, to the point that it's been over a year now... and i am finding alternative ways to get into that space, like the spice just gentle eases your soul in it's natural direction... but hey! thats just what i found.
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jarklor
#19 Posted : 10/28/2014 12:57:59 AM
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HumbleTraveler wrote:
jarklor wrote:

Well, I was going to get anxiety medication soon so ssri's won't be good. Is snri or other stuff ok?


In all seriousness, if youre not yet on any medication, I would wait to see how you feel after your first or first few dmt experiences.

jarklor wrote:

Where should I look for how to make dmt?



On here of course, there are plenty of teks available. As mentioned earlier, I would read through the wiki section first to give yourself a general familiarization. For an extraction tek, the most popular (because it works with no BS) is Cyb's hybrid salt tek.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/DMT-Nexus_Wiki:Health_and_Safety

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Category:Science



After you're done making the salt tek. Whay do you do next?
 
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jarklor wrote:
HumbleTraveler wrote:
jarklor wrote:

Well, I was going to get anxiety medication soon so ssri's won't be good. Is snri or other stuff ok?


In all seriousness, if youre not yet on any medication, I would wait to see how you feel after your first or first few dmt experiences.

jarklor wrote:

Where should I look for how to make dmt?



On here of course, there are plenty of teks available. As mentioned earlier, I would read through the wiki section first to give yourself a general familiarization. For an extraction tek, the most popular (because it works with no BS) is Cyb's hybrid salt tek.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/DMT-Nexus_Wiki:Health_and_Safety

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Category:Science



After you're done making the salt tek. Whay do you do next?

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