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So I would have to ingest at least 3.5-4g in a tea to get any effects? Would it be enjoyable? I have never had 5-MeO before. Also, for quidding the leaf, how would one rehydrate dry leaf material? Or is this not needed? Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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So I did this with 100 grams of chaliponga (shredded) and a. Confusa (powdered) and got this. I havent consumed any of it yet but ill change that soon enough. Im going to "re-x" the a. confusa batch and I have everclear, acetone, and ipa to choose from; which of those do you guys think would be best for redissolving this acacia goo and filtering and re-xing? staresatwalls attached the following image(s):  20130628_004640.jpg (1,887kb) downloaded 763 time(s). 20130716_024733.jpg (1,881kb) downloaded 760 time(s). "Trust in your own wetware; your psyche and your body will be reunited." -Gracie and Zarkov
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Dreamoar
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Anhydrous acetone will give the prettiest result. 99% IPA should give give pretty similar beautiful xtals. IPA with some water (91%, 70%) works but will be more gooey. Ethanol has the advantage of not being sourced from petroleum, but will also give a more gooey product.
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thanks, i hope my acetone is anydrous. it just smells of basified bark soup and as you can tell is pretty dark and gooey. although everclear might be great, i'm not a big fan of all the chemicals "Trust in your own wetware; your psyche and your body will be reunited." -Gracie and Zarkov
in plants we trust
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Homo discens
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I realize this thread hasn't been active for a few months, but hopefully somebody with some insight will see my post. Is there any reason that this wouldn't work with P. viridis? I'm guessing no, but it's be nice to hear from someone who has experience with chacruna before I dive in... I really would like to run this tek on P. viridis and D. cabrerana side-by-side, and assess the similarities/differences between the two when bioassayed. I have read a few reports that D. cabrerana can contain 5-MeO in addition to N,N. From my understanding, this is not the case with P. viridis. I am really excited for this project! 
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now i know how im gonna prepare my chali! allready planing a chalichanga!  Healing someone is an act of love, but how can you love someone whitout loving yourself first?
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Entheogenerator wrote:I realize this thread hasn't been active for a few months, but hopefully somebody with some insight will see my post. Is there any reason that this wouldn't work with P. viridis? I'm guessing no, but it's be nice to hear from someone who has experience with chacruna before I dive in... I really would like to run this tek on P. viridis and D. cabrerana side-by-side, and assess the similarities/differences between the two when bioassayed. I have read a few reports that D. cabrerana can contain 5-MeO in addition to N,N. From my understanding, this is not the case with P. viridis. I am really excited for this project! Sorry, never noticed this post before..I have never worked with psychotria but I assume it is similar to chaliponga so should be okay..the 5meoDMT in chaliponga has been debated and seems that in TLC tests it is not present so far..either way there is something different about chaliponga that really sets it apart from other DMT sources I have worked with. Long live the unwoke.
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Homo discens
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Thanks, jamie. I think I will test this tek on P. viridis first, as I have that readily available, then run the same procedure once I have some D. cabrerana. I am interested to compare and contrast yields, effectiveness of this tek, and bioassay results.
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The future's uncertain and The End is always near.
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Okay, so since I cannot obtain some chemicals/solvents here's what I did : (This is my first DMT experience other than Ayahuasca) 8.1g ACRB powder mixed with equal volume Sodium Carbonate Put in mason jar, just covered it with 91% IPA. Shook very well and let sit for about an hour. Filtered through coffee filter. Evaporated in evap. dish under small fan rather quickly. Scraped up golden-brown opium-like substance. Loaded up "crack pipe" and smoked it. Definite intense non-placebo effects present. (contains actives! :O) This method seems to me like it would be particularly appealing to people like myself who don't have access to certain materials needed for a proper extraction. How can I purify this crude "DMT-Opium" into the most pure form possible using the solvents I have access to : Naptha, 91% IPA, Acetone Any input is appreciated, also this is most likely in the wrong forum, sorry  This method seems to me like it would be particularly appealing to people like myself who don't have access to certain materials needed for a proper extraction. Heaven existing here between Hell We surf the transient wave, balancing on our breath, building and destroying until death. We are the divine creators and destroyers. We are the portals & black holes. We choose what we manifest at the present moment in whatever dimension we inhabit. "We are the ones we've been waiting for" - Hopi Proverb
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Can't you get lime ,, 
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"No, seriously"
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lsDxMdmaddicThc wrote:How can I purify this crude "DMT-Opium" into the most pure form possible
Why do you create this confusion by calling it 'DMT-Opium"? Both DMT and opium are clearly different substances and their effects are worlds apart. For the public reading this it is confusing and DMT can definitely do without the association to opium. Kind regards, The Traveler
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lsDxMdmaddicThc wrote:using the solvents I have access to : Naptha, 91% IPA, Acetone Any input is appreciated, also this is most likely in the wrong forum, sorry This method seems to me like it would be particularly appealing to people like myself who don't have access to certain materials needed for a proper extraction. You say you don't have what's needed for a proper extraction yet you say you have naptha. Why don't you do a extraction with Martha and sodium carbonate if anything? "we are not human being's having spiritual experiences, we are spiritual being's having human experience's." (Teilhard de Chardin (1975?)
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The future's uncertain and The End is always near.
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The Traveler wrote:lsDxMdmaddicThc wrote:How can I purify this crude "DMT-Opium" into the most pure form possible
Why do you create this confusion by calling it 'DMT-Opium"? Both DMT and opium are clearly different substances and their effects are worlds apart. For the public reading this it is confusing and DMT can definitely do without the association to opium. Kind regards, The Traveler Sorry I just wasn't sure what to call it. "Opium" was the first word to come to my mind when looking at the extract. Changa doesn't fit. I guess just crude DMT? Sorry for the unintentional disrespect to DMT. Heaven existing here between Hell We surf the transient wave, balancing on our breath, building and destroying until death. We are the divine creators and destroyers. We are the portals & black holes. We choose what we manifest at the present moment in whatever dimension we inhabit. "We are the ones we've been waiting for" - Hopi Proverb
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I thought this was it's own thread?..was it merged into my thread? Not sure it belongs here...rather not clutter this thread with this stuff. Long live the unwoke.
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The future's uncertain and The End is always near.
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jamie wrote:I thought this was it's own thread?..was it merged into my thread? Not sure it belongs here...rather not clutter this thread with this stuff. Yeah it was moved here. Man, I feel unwanted. Haha just kidding I understand. Heaven existing here between Hell We surf the transient wave, balancing on our breath, building and destroying until death. We are the divine creators and destroyers. We are the portals & black holes. We choose what we manifest at the present moment in whatever dimension we inhabit. "We are the ones we've been waiting for" - Hopi Proverb
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Would this tek work using d-limonene as the solvent? Or would it pull too many fats out? A dramatic shift approaches...
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Dreamoar
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WEM wrote:Would this tek work using d-limonene as the solvent? Or would it pull too many fats out? You are not able to evaporate limonine like you can with iso, so you would need to salt it out and convert it back to freebase which basically is the "jimjam party" section of q21q21 tek, which I still think shuld be renamed the jimjam jamboree, but I digress. I'd recommend looking to that tek for guidance on a drytek with limo, or the blab tek for guidance on a wet tek using limo.
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