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#21 Posted : 3/14/2013 4:35:00 PM
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So I would have to ingest at least 3.5-4g in a tea to get any effects? Would it be enjoyable? I have never had 5-MeO before.

Also, for quidding the leaf, how would one rehydrate dry leaf material? Or is this not needed?
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#22 Posted : 7/16/2013 9:43:22 AM

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So I did this with 100 grams of chaliponga (shredded) and a. Confusa (powdered) and got this. I havent consumed any of it yet but ill change that soon enough. Im going to "re-x" the a. confusa batch and I have everclear, acetone, and ipa to choose from; which of those do you guys think would be best for redissolving this acacia goo and filtering and re-xing?
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#23 Posted : 7/16/2013 6:21:43 PM

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Anhydrous acetone will give the prettiest result. 99% IPA should give give pretty similar beautiful xtals. IPA with some water (91%, 70%) works but will be more gooey. Ethanol has the advantage of not being sourced from petroleum, but will also give a more gooey product.
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#24 Posted : 7/16/2013 7:03:03 PM

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thanks, i hope my acetone is anydrous. it just smells of basified bark soup and as you can tell is pretty dark and gooey. although everclear might be great, i'm not a big fan of all the chemicals
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#25 Posted : 9/21/2013 7:22:39 AM

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I realize this thread hasn't been active for a few months, but hopefully somebody with some insight will see my post. Is there any reason that this wouldn't work with P. viridis? I'm guessing no, but it's be nice to hear from someone who has experience with chacruna before I dive in... I really would like to run this tek on P. viridis and D. cabrerana side-by-side, and assess the similarities/differences between the two when bioassayed. I have read a few reports that D. cabrerana can contain 5-MeO in addition to N,N. From my understanding, this is not the case with P. viridis. I am really excited for this project! Smile
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#26 Posted : 9/21/2013 7:35:29 AM

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now i know how im gonna prepare my chali! allready planing a chalichanga! Big grin
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#27 Posted : 10/5/2013 8:34:37 AM

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I realize this thread hasn't been active for a few months, but hopefully somebody with some insight will see my post. Is there any reason that this wouldn't work with P. viridis? I'm guessing no, but it's be nice to hear from someone who has experience with chacruna before I dive in... I really would like to run this tek on P. viridis and D. cabrerana side-by-side, and assess the similarities/differences between the two when bioassayed. I have read a few reports that D. cabrerana can contain 5-MeO in addition to N,N. From my understanding, this is not the case with P. viridis. I am really excited for this project! Smile


Sorry, never noticed this post before..I have never worked with psychotria but I assume it is similar to chaliponga so should be okay..the 5meoDMT in chaliponga has been debated and seems that in TLC tests it is not present so far..either way there is something different about chaliponga that really sets it apart from other DMT sources I have worked with.
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#28 Posted : 10/5/2013 11:54:13 AM

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Thanks, jamie. I think I will test this tek on P. viridis first, as I have that readily available, then run the same procedure once I have some D. cabrerana. I am interested to compare and contrast yields, effectiveness of this tek, and bioassay results.
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#29 Posted : 10/9/2014 11:59:51 PM

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Okay, so since I cannot obtain some chemicals/solvents here's what I did :

(This is my first DMT experience other than Ayahuasca)

8.1g ACRB powder mixed with equal volume Sodium Carbonate
Put in mason jar, just covered it with 91% IPA.
Shook very well and let sit for about an hour.
Filtered through coffee filter.
Evaporated in evap. dish under small fan rather quickly.
Scraped up golden-brown opium-like substance.

Loaded up "crack pipe" and smoked it.

Definite intense non-placebo effects present. (contains actives! :O)

This method seems to me like it would be particularly appealing to people like myself who don't have access to certain materials needed for a proper extraction.

How can I purify this crude "DMT-Opium" into the most pure form possible
using the solvents I have access to :
Naptha, 91% IPA, Acetone

Any input is appreciated, also this is most likely in the wrong forum, sorry Sad

This method seems to me like it would be particularly appealing to people like myself who don't have access to certain materials needed for a proper extraction.
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#30 Posted : 10/10/2014 5:03:25 AM

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#31 Posted : 10/10/2014 6:04:26 AM

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#32 Posted : 10/10/2014 8:03:29 PM

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lsDxMdmaddicThc wrote:
How can I purify this crude "DMT-Opium" into the most pure form possible

Why do you create this confusion by calling it 'DMT-Opium"? Both DMT and opium are clearly different substances and their effects are worlds apart.

For the public reading this it is confusing and DMT can definitely do without the association to opium.


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#33 Posted : 10/11/2014 12:15:33 PM

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lsDxMdmaddicThc wrote:

using the solvents I have access to :
Naptha, 91% IPA, Acetone

Any input is appreciated, also this is most likely in the wrong forum, sorry Sad

This method seems to me like it would be particularly appealing to people like myself who don't have access to certain materials needed for a proper extraction.

You say you don't have what's needed for a proper extraction yet you say you have naptha. Why don't you do a extraction with Martha and sodium carbonate if anything?
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#34 Posted : 10/19/2014 9:35:17 PM

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The Traveler wrote:
lsDxMdmaddicThc wrote:
How can I purify this crude "DMT-Opium" into the most pure form possible

Why do you create this confusion by calling it 'DMT-Opium"? Both DMT and opium are clearly different substances and their effects are worlds apart.

For the public reading this it is confusing and DMT can definitely do without the association to opium.


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Sorry I just wasn't sure what to call it.
"Opium" was the first word to come to my mind when looking at the extract.
Changa doesn't fit.
I guess just crude DMT?
Sorry for the unintentional disrespect to DMT. Smile
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#35 Posted : 10/20/2014 2:03:05 AM

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I thought this was it's own thread?..was it merged into my thread? Not sure it belongs here...rather not clutter this thread with this stuff.
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#36 Posted : 10/21/2014 4:36:07 PM

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jamie wrote:
I thought this was it's own thread?..was it merged into my thread? Not sure it belongs here...rather not clutter this thread with this stuff.

Yeah it was moved here.
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Haha just kidding I understand.
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#37 Posted : 10/23/2014 5:41:26 PM
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Would this tek work using d-limonene as the solvent? Or would it pull too many fats out?
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#38 Posted : 10/23/2014 7:46:27 PM

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WEM wrote:
Would this tek work using d-limonene as the solvent? Or would it pull too many fats out?



You are not able to evaporate limonine like you can with iso, so you would need to salt it out and convert it back to freebase which basically is the "jimjam party" section of q21q21 tek, which I still think shuld be renamed the jimjam jamboree, but I digress. I'd recommend looking to that tek for guidance on a drytek with limo, or the blab tek for guidance on a wet tek using limo.
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